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Old 04-15-2018, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Total compensation is different from payrate. With that said, Delta and United payrate is higher than FedEx payrate
With respect to prospective hires, wouldn’t it matter more what their total compensation was than their pay rate?
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Old 04-15-2018, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
This is very common advice, but I don't think it fits everyone's circumstance. Sure, go start with the first one that calls if you don't have multiple offers. But the implication (at least when I hear this advice) is that you're going to hang your hat there for your career.
I meant to take the job of the first that offers. The other two may never give you an offer. If a second or third does give you an offer, then, by all means, a tough decision has to be made.

When I got hired I had training dates with Fedex and Northwest in the same week. I'm pretty sure I made the right decision
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Old 04-15-2018, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 5millionaire
With respect to prospective hires, wouldn’t it matter more what their total compensation was than their pay rate?
Minus FedEx current A Plan which the Union is trying to I think Delta and UA might have the advantage
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PastV1by10
This horse has been beat into a coma. FedEx hands down is a better place to be as a pilot.
PastV1 is correct! - UPS hands down is a better place to be as a pilot. ...and UPS pilots are also better looking!

Kidding aside, both companies are great places to be. You won a multi-million dollar lottery and are trying to decide if you should take it all out in $50s or in $100 bills? lol

Agree with Salty - take the first class and enjoy the ride.

PS. I think you’ve already made up your mind though since you posted this question in a fredex thread?


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Old 04-16-2018, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoilerDeployer
Loving the "when you go home--work is GONE" bit so far compared to 12 years active duty.

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I don't live in Memphis so I am commuting for now. If there are no jumpseats because there is no sort on that particular day, or there are not enough days for the wife and daughter to drive down to Memphis (and I don't want to make the 8 hour drive myself), I'm stuck in between reserve periods as a junior guy.

Until I can bid a VTO, I suppose my choices are drop R-days (if they let me), move R-days, or buy plane tickets back and forth. When you say "write off" a ticket to work now and then, are you implying there is a tax deduction available?
No tax deduction--just a "whiff" on the income you give up. My math was simple..$300 bucks for a ride to work where I might go on a week long trip to Europe, etc making thousands.... My goal was to make work "not suck". Being Diamond Elite at Delta helped. I also flew my plane to work at times and parked at Wilson. Was it cheap? Not even. Did I feel like the "richest" guy on the planet when I parked my plane at 11 am, had breakfast, then flew went off for a weekend layover somewhere in the MD-11? You bet. Point is pinching pennies is important many times as a new hire, but if being afraid to spend 300 bucks to go grab an $8,000 trip to Paris a little later in your career you might want to look at our math. Once I figured out that a week long trip could pretty much cover my commute or avgas for a bunch of commutes, I simply picked up a trip then enjoyed going back and forth guilt free. My goal was always to make going to work fun--not something I dreaded. The other corollary to that theory was sending a wife or daughter or two along to meet me on the trip if there was a nice layover. I've skied with my kids on FedEx trips, and shown them ANC, SFO, MHT, NYC, Paris, etc along the way. The result is the JOB became their good deal, not the thing that just takes hubby/daddy away all the time. Once you start making the money--spend a little on making the job fun for them too.

So--you "write off" your costs against the money you could have made. I just consider some of the costs worth eating...and thus far its been a fun career. I might have more money if I just rode the FedEx JS around but I've got some killer shots over the FedEx ramp in my plane flying home, and I'm 9 years into my Diamond Status at Delta and made PE at AA. The perks aren't just for me, but benefit the whole family.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
No tax deduction--just a "whiff" on the income you give up. My math was simple..$300 bucks for a ride to work where I might go on a week long trip to Europe, etc making thousands.... My goal was to make work "not suck". Being Diamond Elite at Delta helped. I also flew my plane to work at times and parked at Wilson. Was it cheap? Not even. Did I feel like the "richest" guy on the planet when I parked my plane at 11 am, had breakfast, then flew went off for a weekend layover somewhere in the MD-11? You bet. Point is pinching pennies is important many times as a new hire, but if being afraid to spend 300 bucks to go grab an $8,000 trip to Paris a little later in your career you might want to look at our math. Once I figured out that a week long trip could pretty much cover my commute or avgas for a bunch of commutes, I simply picked up a trip then enjoyed going back and forth guilt free. My goal was always to make going to work fun--not something I dreaded. The other corollary to that theory was sending a wife or daughter or two along to meet me on the trip if there was a nice layover. I've skied with my kids on FedEx trips, and shown them ANC, SFO, MHT, NYC, Paris, etc along the way. The result is the JOB became their good deal, not the thing that just takes hubby/daddy away all the time. Once you start making the money--spend a little on making the job fun for them too.

So--you "write off" your costs against the money you could have made. I just consider some of the costs worth eating...and thus far its been a fun career. I might have more money if I just rode the FedEx JS around but I've got some killer shots over the FedEx ramp in my plane flying home, and I'm 9 years into my Diamond Status at Delta and made PE at AA. The perks aren't just for me, but benefit the whole family.
Makes sense. Just paid for my own commercial ticket back from vacation since there were no company jumpseats that day. Just an inexpensive one-way, and I'll make all that back on the first day of work!
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoilerDeployer
I don't live in Memphis so I am commuting for now. If there are no jumpseats because there is no sort on that particular day, or there are not enough days for the wife and daughter to drive down to Memphis (and I don't want to make the 8 hour drive myself), I'm stuck in between reserve periods as a junior guy.

Until I can bid a VTO, I suppose my choices are drop R-days (if they let me), move R-days, or buy plane tickets back and forth. When you say "write off" a ticket to work now and then, are you implying there is a tax deduction available?
You can also Jumpseat on any passenger airline for your commute home or work.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
You can also Jumpseat on any passenger airline for your commute home or work.
But it’s important to note there is no protection offline.
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Originally Posted by mikecweb
But it’s important to note there is no protection offline.
There is no protection for pilots on reserve. Plus, no need for protection to go home. By the way, I’d like to see those two things changed in the future, protection while offline and reserve pilots.
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Old 04-17-2018, 04:26 AM
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FedEx doesn’t have the best commuter policy in the industry. Reserves are not covered, off line JS is not covered, you can’t JS on Company into an International trip etc etc. At most companies, as long as you check in on time for you trip that’s all that matters.
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