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04-21-2018, 07:58 AM

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FXLAX

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FedEx or UPS?

Fedex is also taking delivery of 50+ aircraft in the next 5 years. Which explains why they are hiring 450+ a year when there are an average of 200 retiring pilots per year.

04-21-2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FXLAX

Fedex is also taking delivery of 50+ aircraft in the next 5 years.

How many are growth v. replacement airframes?

04-21-2018, 08:04 AM

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How many are growth v. replacement airframes?

Sorry, I edited my post above.

04-21-2018, 11:43 AM

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Not sure what the seat movement looks like at Brown but something to consider is that Purple has extremely restrictive seat movement and rarely holds bids. If the ability to tailor fit your type of flying and QOL with your seniority is important then I would look beyond Purple.

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04-21-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FXLAX

Sorry, I edited my post above.

Your chart shows a net gain of 54 airplanes by 2023. Of that, 53 are ATRs and Cessnas. Unless mainline is staffing them, I might not use that as a data point in this discussion.

04-21-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CL300

Your chart shows a net gain of 54 airplanes by 2023. Of that, 53 are ATRs and Cessnas. Unless mainline is staffing them, I might not use that as a data point in this discussion.

Ha, maybe that's the plan

04-21-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CL300

Your chart shows a net gain of 54 airplanes by 2023. Of that, 53 are ATRs and Cessnas. Unless mainline is staffing them, I might not use that as a data point in this discussion.

I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the correction. And I highly doubt mainline is staffing them.

04-21-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FXLAX

I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the correction. And I highly doubt mainline is staffing them.

I know you’re not, I was giving you a little grief. Good to see you guys are hiring like crazy, it would be great to be able to have proper staffing and trade trips occasionally.

04-23-2018, 05:51 AM

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Would any current FedEx or UPS employees mind posting their last year's total W-2 earnings with details (years longevity, days worked, hours blocked, overtime flown, etc.) for comparison? Min guarantee x hourly rate x 12 doesn't really tell the whole story.

Thanks for all your great input, everyone!

04-23-2018, 06:23 AM

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I definitely do not think one chooses Fedex over UPS or vice versa for the money. If you are, then you are making a mistake. IMO, one chooses one over the other due to culture and management relationship, flying, equipment, bases, etc, not money. For example, as previously mentioned, Fedex has a lot of new planes coming, but the vast majority if not all are replacements. UPS orders are net gains, to the tune of 30+ net increase on a fleet of 250 planes. UPS has no plans to retire any planes, in fact look at the technological investment being made on the 75/76 and the A300. I would also not be surprised if they added further orders.

Timing in the growth cycle is important.