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Old 12-08-2017, 04:18 AM
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Ask them how you supposedly cost the company $340 an hour in pilot compensation alone.[/QUOTE]

That's what skywest bills xjet for us, then says we are to expensive
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:46 AM
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Not saying there isn’t some funny math in some areas, but $340/ hr for a crew ain’t too far off. If that is per seat, you’re right to question it.

$150/hr*1.5 for draft/ext coverage=$225+30%overhead (general average in all business)~$300.

Add in some $$ to cover ext bonuses and other costs and you’re pretty close to a plausible $340.

I’m gone from ASA now and I hate to see what’s happening to a great pilot group, but there are probably easier areas to cook books. For example, “IT services” is a nebulous term without hard numbers attached, pilots have pay charts with published numbers for comparison.
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Originally Posted by gatorhater
Not saying there isn’t some funny math in some areas, but $340/ hr for a crew ain’t too far off. If that is per seat, you’re right to question it.

$150/hr*1.5 for draft/ext coverage=$225+30%overhead (general average in all business)~$300.

Add in some $$ to cover ext bonuses and other costs and you’re pretty close to a plausible $340.

I’m gone from ASA now and I hate to see what’s happening to a great pilot group, but there are probably easier areas to cook books. For example, “IT services” is a nebulous term without hard numbers attached, pilots have pay charts with published numbers for comparison.
Plausible. Still not the wisest idea to toss that number at a bunch of AQP guys who've been upgraded, demoted, displaced, and are now watching their jobs circle the drain. Then again I lived though the unblinking Drew Bedson, the "It doesn't matter how we got here"/"$80 for a roll of ACARS paper" Scott Hall shenanigans, and the brilliance of the short-lived "SureJet" rebranding so I'd be a fool to expect anything less from the current regime.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:20 AM
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Its monopoly money to them anyway. How does our $340/hr compare to Skywest and our other competition? Interesting that we are so expensive and can't compete when every other regional is handing over $10-20k just for walking in the door and sticking around for a few. Our rates are on the lower end of the spectrum too so they need to stop playing that card because its total bs
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https://seekingalpha.com/news/3317295-united-continental-said-circling-expressjet
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:08 AM
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https://seekingalpha.com/news/3317295-united-continental-said-circling-expressjet
Will alpa or co. Need to say something. Or everybody will be gone
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Originally Posted by Superx
Will alpa or co. Need to say something. Or everybody will be gone
English please?
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
English please?
Translation.....
Well...... alpa and the company need to say somthing or everyone will leave before it happens.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blockplus
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Well...... alpa and the company need to say somthing or everyone will leave before it happens.
Sorry was at a red light trying to type before it turned green
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That was leaked to the media to try to stop the mass Exodus of pilot's.
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