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My wife is a UAL fa. I’ve read her contract, including this loa. I’m just saying that the loa has language that is outdated because it’s either based on the 1989 contract or is exactly the same (the contract they successfully blocked UAL from buying AWAC in 1992).

Here is the loa. Notice phrases like, “commercial flight operations of the type historically performed by United Airlines Flight Attendants,” “alter-ego,” “commuter airline,” and “primary 135 carrier.” It doesn’t sound like any existing regional falls in the category of any of those.

If UAL really wanted to buy a regional, they can either fight the Afa over this outdated loa or just save the legal fees in order to use that money and pay them off instead.

1. Except as specifically provided in the Foreign National Letter of
Agreement, neither UAL, Inc., United Airlines, nor a successor,

assign, or subsidiary thereof (hereinafter referred to as the

“Company”), will, if such entity has a controlling interest, whether

acting individually or jointly with any of the above entities, conduct
any commercial flight operations of the type historically performed

by United Airlines Flight Attendants, unless it performs such work

with Flight Attendants on the United Airlines System Seniority
List. Such flying shall be performed in accordance with the terms

and conditions of the existing agreement or any other applicable

agreement or agreements between the Company and the Union.

2. Without limiting the foregoing, the Company agrees not to

establish or purchase an alter-ego airline in whole or in part.

3. Notwithstanding Paragraph 1. above, to the extent permitted by

law, the Company will recognize the Union as the exclusive

bargaining representative for the Flight Attendants on any

commuter airline (primary 135 carrier) which it establishes or

purchases in whole or in significant part. Upon recognition, the

Union and the Company agree to negotiate in a timely fashion a
competitive agreement no less favorable than area standard

contracts for similar flying operations.

4. The parties to this Letter of Agreement hereby agree that it shall

run concurrently with the 2016-2021 Agreement, and shall be

concurrently subject to the provisions pertaining to duration and
amendment contained therein.

HuntinFishin

I think we agree that this fa loa or scope does not prevent a buy If the United wanted it. all I wanted to say was those who have close ties to others that would be effected buy this might be hearing rumors too. like hey they just dropped off a 700 and 145 door mock-up at the training center, or the Afa is talking about seniority protections out of the blue. Id feel better holding out hope for a buy if there was some rumblings to back it up .

Superx

Right, no word at all.

PhantomHawk

Dude.....funniest post I think I’ve read on here.

jcountry

Anyone who thinks united can’t get around some scope language like that is retarded.

I doubt united wants to buy the place anyhow, but if they did, some stupid ass FA scope sure wouldn’t stop them.

I see 3 or 4 obvious holes right now, and I sure ain’t no kind of corporate law genius.

SkipperBaloo

If United wants these ERJs flown then they'll need to do something. Commutair cant even staff the ones that they have (not sure how air whisky is doing). Frankly, the only thing that will save this place and motivate pilots to stay or come would be a no bs flow-thru. Otherwise we'll be shutdown sometime in 2018 with 100+/month going out the door. You can't lose that many and only get 5 new hires/month and be sustainable.

jcountry

Agreed.

It's sad what has happened. I really feel for everyone at LASA. When my future travel needs call for buying a ticket, I'll happily pay more and go out of my way to avoid delta. Those jackasses will never see another penny from me.

After all the stuff ASA did to help delta out-this is how they are repaid?? Shameful!!

PhantomHawk

You think DAL is to blame? INC makes decisions. Whose idea do you think it was to cancel early? I don’t know, but I bet it wasn’t DAL.

gojo

Yup, it is Inc and their anti union minions that are to blame. They’ve been moving planes and flying from Expressjet to Skywest for some time now

Superx

I was told today that some AQP was postpone not sure if it was lack of instructors are simulators . He didn't know just they put it off tell next month.