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10-10-2017, 05:25 AM

#671

amcnd

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Originally Posted by gojo

If the Mighty Skywest was amicable to a merger they would've shared any progress or the lack there of. And if they wanted it, it would've happened. Another thing that bothers me is the fact you say most were unaware? How does this happen when these pilots/people are under the same umbrella? That's solidarity at its finest right there.

Only 20% of the pilot group fills out schedule surveys... That tell you why?? Bet only 20% of OO pilots even get on the Sapa website.. and only 5% post...

10-10-2017, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by No Lies

For those of you that can look past the way SkyWest crapped all over XJT/ASA, then there is also this to look at.

AND NO, I do not work for or recruiting for any airline. Just check out who is on the bottom.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...jMFo/htmlview#

Haha... That Skywest Kool-Aid must be strong to be worth a $100k pay difference at 5 years. Anyone else wonder what they lace it with? I'm thinking the drippings of unmarried college age mormon girls.

10-10-2017, 06:56 AM

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amcnd

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They didn’t add the bonuses at SkyWest.... not that that will move it up the list that much. 10 year Captain its about 10-15k a year based on how much you work..

10-10-2017, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by amcnd

They didn’t add the bonuses at SkyWest.... not that that will move it up the list that much. 10 year Captain its about 10-15k a year based on how much you work..

Well, hourly rate is a much better comparison, since bonuses can easily vanish at the whim of management. Good luck to the CRJ folks looking to make the jump to Endeavor, I wish you all the best.

10-10-2017, 07:23 AM

#675

amcnd

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Originally Posted by AboveMins

Well, hourly rate is a much better comparison, since bonuses can easily vanish at the whim of management. Good luck to the CRJ folks looking to make the jump to Endeavor, I wish you all the best.

I agree.. im just saying whoever made that spreadsheet has some flaws in it.

10-10-2017, 07:30 AM

#676

gojo

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Originally Posted by amcnd

I agree.. im just saying whoever made that spreadsheet has some flaws in it.

Of course there is? Is that resignation talking. Because I'm still struggling to understand why that last pay proposal was even presented at the Mighty Skywest let alone getting voted in? SMH

10-10-2017, 07:37 AM

#677

amcnd

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Originally Posted by gojo

Of course there is? Is that resignation talking. Because I'm still struggling to understand why that last pay proposal was even presented at the Mighty Skywest let alone getting voted in? SMH

It was voted in because of the growth.. so far they haven’t lied... And im sure if we voted it down they would have gone to XJT and offered the same deal. And they were already willing to say yes..

10-10-2017, 07:42 AM

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Nevjets

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Originally Posted by amcnd

Its the Truth. XJT mec could have said “go pound sand.. thats what our contract says...”. But they didn’t.. we would be 8000 pilots strong right now...

Yeah, but you aren't answering the question.

10-10-2017, 07:44 AM

#679

Nevjets

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Originally Posted by amcnd

They didn’t add the bonuses at SkyWest.... not that that will move it up the list that much. 10 year Captain its about 10-15k a year based on how much you work..

Maybe because Skywest bonuses aren't bonuses? They are profit sharing or performance bonuses, neither of which are guaranteed. Unlike the bonuses at all the other regionals.

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Originally Posted by amcnd

It was voted in because of the growth.. so far they haven’t lied... And im sure if we voted it down they would have gone to XJT and offered the same deal. And they were already willing to say yes..

So you are saying that the 45 ejets would've gone to xjt? The negotiations at xjt have stalled. Management doesn't want to pay.

10-10-2017, 07:59 AM

#680

gojo

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Originally Posted by amcnd

It was voted in because of the growth.. so far they haven’t lied... And im sure if we voted it down they would have gone to XJT and offered the same deal. And they were already willing to say yes..

Hmmm, that's a lot of speculation. Have you seen Skywest's profit margins for the last several years? I think they'd be okay if they paid you guys more. I also believe that those planes were going to Skywest regardless. Now you're stuck with near bottom industry rates. And yes I know about the bonuses. Performance bonuses are the hardest to quantify as regular income