L-ASA (ExpressJet CRJ side)
09-28-2017, 05:38 PM
#642
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God-
Hard to believe what has happened.
I sincerely wish the very best of luck to all. Lot of really great people still at ASA.
Wonderful bunch of people. Always did the right thing, and have earned good karma. Great people, I'm really hoping each one lands somewhere great!
Hard to believe what has happened.
I sincerely wish the very best of luck to all. Lot of really great people still at ASA.
Wonderful bunch of people. Always did the right thing, and have earned good karma. Great people, I'm really hoping each one lands somewhere great!
10-07-2017, 02:06 AM
#643
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Go to endeavor. They are taking almost all the ATL flying.
(If you are hired at ASA now, you probably won't be able to hold ATL anyhow. Probably would go to LGA.) In case you are unaware, ASA is parking all 50 seaters this year-and many are going to endeavor. The ATL seniority situation will soon really hit the skids.
(If you are hired at ASA now, you probably won't be able to hold ATL anyhow. Probably would go to LGA.) In case you are unaware, ASA is parking all 50 seaters this year-and many are going to endeavor. The ATL seniority situation will soon really hit the skids.
Just wanted to chime in on the ASA 50 seaters coming here to EDV... not true. We took 4, but that is all we will take. Maintenance costs to get them to standard have proven too high. EDV is now scheduled to get 900s & 700s this coming year, no more 200s.
If you do consider Endeavor, make sure you read all of the fine print including the terms and conditions of their bonuses. I don't know about them personally but I have heard there are some interesting conditions. Those bonuses arent going to exist after 2018 (for the time being). Also consider Endeavor has opened and closed ATL before and their ATL base is probably going senior. Our future is very questionable at ASA and ATL CA or FO is the most senior and fastest shrinking base at our company. Just do yourself a favor and do your homework before you make a decision.
That being said, we are about to vote on a new TA that will roll those bonuses into the highest pay rates, provided it passes. Over $50 per hour for a new hire, on top of the $10-20k bonus. Head over to the EDV threads to read more.
10-07-2017, 02:18 AM
#644
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True on the vote. We will see by November.
But you are wrong about the FOs in ATL. Last bid saw the first new hires getting ATL while still in training. We opened in June, and there has to be enough time for everyone on property to have a chance to get to ATL before they offer it to new hires. That time has come.
But you are wrong about the FOs in ATL. Last bid saw the first new hires getting ATL while still in training. We opened in June, and there has to be enough time for everyone on property to have a chance to get to ATL before they offer it to new hires. That time has come.
Until there is vote for pay there is no guarantee retention continues or gets converted to rates. Highly likely but until the deal is inked you never know.
As far as ATL and new FOs, your statement is false. I know several people hired in Feb that are stuck in NY that can't hold ATL. ATL is junior on FO side but new hires still need to plan on spending some time in a NY crash pad because hotels are to expensive there.
As far as ATL and new FOs, your statement is false. I know several people hired in Feb that are stuck in NY that can't hold ATL. ATL is junior on FO side but new hires still need to plan on spending some time in a NY crash pad because hotels are to expensive there.
10-07-2017, 02:26 AM
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Just my observation, but I think DL used SKW in ATL to ease the transition between XJT and EDV. I could be wrong, but I think SKW flying from ATL will lessen over the next few months now that EDV is growing the base rapidly with both 200s and 900s.
10-07-2017, 03:03 AM
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SkyWest is opening a ATL (November) reserve base ... (Went Jr..) and SkyWest ist taking more of the ASA 200’s then originally planed. Ones Endeavor listed as tail numbers that they were going to take are now at OO flying. SkyWest has a CRJ “short” course (for current typed pilots) starting in November. I know the last thing ASA pilots want to think about doing is jump to SkyWest.. its a tuff emotional decision to do it. But im telling you Upgrade times are crashing to Newhires as we speeak.. soft landings lets you keep longevity, user, vac, Travel.... try it, then bail to Endeavor if you dont like what you get after 6 months... but you have a chance to Keep ATL/DTW easy.. But i get the no way in H$LL attitude.. good luck to all.
10-07-2017, 03:32 AM
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SkyWest is opening a ATL (November) reserve base ... (Went Jr..) and SkyWest ist taking more of the ASA 200’s then originally planed. Ones Endeavor listed as tail numbers that they were going to take are now at OO flying. SkyWest has a CRJ “short” course (for current typed pilots) starting in November. I know the last thing ASA pilots want to think about doing is jump to SkyWest.. its a tuff emotional decision to do it. But im telling you Upgrade times are crashing to Newhires as we speeak.. soft landings lets you keep longevity, user, vac, Travel.... try it, then bail to Endeavor if you dont like what you get after 6 months... but you have a chance to Keep ATL/DTW easy.. But i get the no way in H$LL attitude.. good luck to all.
Right now most of the ASA pilot can't stand SkyWest as a company. I would personally go to Endeavor, PSA, or Envoy before I would ever even think about submitting an application to SkyWest.
10-07-2017, 03:45 AM
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Why would anyone from ASA go to SkyWest? The only reason I could think of is maybe some of our DTW guys since it is a junior base for SkyWest. Otherwise Endeavor makes much more sense. Higher payrates, fast upgrade time and a chance at career progression through the DGI.
Right now most of the ASA pilot can't stand SkyWest as a company. I would personally go to Endeavor, PSA, or Envoy before I would ever even think about submitting an application to SkyWest.
Right now most of the ASA pilot can't stand SkyWest as a company. I would personally go to Endeavor, PSA, or Envoy before I would ever even think about submitting an application to SkyWest.
10-07-2017, 04:24 AM
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