L-ASA (ExpressJet CRJ side)
01-14-2017, 05:02 PM
#151
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Look at ATL to: ILM, SHV, CHA, TRI on 1 June, then again on 20 June.
I just checked 11 Jul 2017 ATL-GNV (and several others listed below).
7 flights that day, one a 717, the rest appear to be 50 seaters with the following caveat:
"Operated by Connection Carrier, EXPRESSJET DBA DEL"
Also saw ATL-HPN, all expressjet; ATL-BHM, ATL-TRI, ATL-XNA, ATL-YUL, ATL-YYZ, ATL-VLD, ATL-VPS, ATL-HOU and on, and on... most if not all operated by expressjet.
I did see a sprinkling of endeavor in some of the city pairs in there, but not what I expected based on your post.
7 flights that day, one a 717, the rest appear to be 50 seaters with the following caveat:
"Operated by Connection Carrier, EXPRESSJET DBA DEL"
Also saw ATL-HPN, all expressjet; ATL-BHM, ATL-TRI, ATL-XNA, ATL-YUL, ATL-YYZ, ATL-VLD, ATL-VPS, ATL-HOU and on, and on... most if not all operated by expressjet.
I did see a sprinkling of endeavor in some of the city pairs in there, but not what I expected based on your post.
01-14-2017, 05:21 PM
#152
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It looks to me like they are pretty much saying that.
(I feel bad for folks who still work there. A LOT of really great people...... But yep, I think things are headed in an ominous direction. ASA has a seniority problem. It's tough to stay in business competing against a whole bunch of other regionals with 1/5 the average seniority.)
I hope there are a few more years of flying available, but it's very obvious that Delta is gonna bail as soon as the ATL connection contract is up.
(I feel bad for folks who still work there. A LOT of really great people...... But yep, I think things are headed in an ominous direction. ASA has a seniority problem. It's tough to stay in business competing against a whole bunch of other regionals with 1/5 the average seniority.)
I hope there are a few more years of flying available, but it's very obvious that Delta is gonna bail as soon as the ATL connection contract is up.
01-14-2017, 05:38 PM
#153
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I don't work at your company, but I find it veeerrryy hard to believe that seniority is your problem. I worked at AE now Envoy. You guys have senior pilots with years of exceptional experience flying passengers for Dixie Airlines. THAT is valuable! Don't short change yourself. Experience is not the problem. Look elsewhere. EJT is more than likely mismanaged and unable to realize that experienced pilots are an asset and Delta needs to pay up, just as they do for Endv. People quit the industry and don't return from this whip saw. The Legacies are the one s loosing the inexpensive labor in the end.
1. How many airframes does Envoy currently have?
2. When did Envoy last sign a concessionary contract? And how many planes did they lose prior to signing it?
Senior pilots cost more money, particularly when every other carrier is approving concessionary contracts to win flying. Something Eaglevoy pilots are intimately aware of (ala PSA).
Also Eaglevoy has flow which helps solve that seniority issue..
01-14-2017, 06:07 PM
#154
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Anyway, I was replying to Dingus' post:
"If you go on Delta Travelnet and pick just about any city pair L-ASA is currently flying for Delta and check about 6 months out you'll see that it's all scheduled to be flown by EDV. Does this confirm the EDV ATL base and that L-ASA will be gone later in 2017?"...not yours. But thanks for the input.
BTW - I don't fly for either XJT or Endeavor, and really have no dog in the fight. I just thought that Dingus' post was a little over the top and wanted to check it out.
01-14-2017, 06:47 PM
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When I ran those four city pairings prior to June, they were all XJT. After 12 Jun, they were all EDV.
Didn't check July or August. But it makes sense XJT won't be able to pull out all at once.
Didn't check July or August. But it makes sense XJT won't be able to pull out all at once.
I started with 12 Jun and ran through end of July, mostly heart of summer flying. Yes I found some endeavor, but not a takeover. Most of the "old" routes ASA flies are still there and are majority operated by Expressjet-ASA.
Anyway, I was replying to Dingus' post:
"If you go on Delta Travelnet and pick just about any city pair L-ASA is currently flying for Delta and check about 6 months out you'll see that it's all scheduled to be flown by EDV. Does this confirm the EDV ATL base and that L-ASA will be gone later in 2017?"...not yours. But thanks for the input.
BTW - I don't fly for either XJT or Endeavor, and really have no dog in the fight. I just thought that Dingus' post was a little over the top and wanted to check it out.
Anyway, I was replying to Dingus' post:
"If you go on Delta Travelnet and pick just about any city pair L-ASA is currently flying for Delta and check about 6 months out you'll see that it's all scheduled to be flown by EDV. Does this confirm the EDV ATL base and that L-ASA will be gone later in 2017?"...not yours. But thanks for the input.
BTW - I don't fly for either XJT or Endeavor, and really have no dog in the fight. I just thought that Dingus' post was a little over the top and wanted to check it out.
01-15-2017, 12:45 PM
#156
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Isn't xjet (asa side) parking all their 50 seaters this year?
I've heard that much of what flying is left will switch to NY. I'm too lazy to check schedules, but could be that 50 seat cities are going away, and the shift toward NY will replace that.
I've heard that much of what flying is left will switch to NY. I'm too lazy to check schedules, but could be that 50 seat cities are going away, and the shift toward NY will replace that.
01-15-2017, 12:52 PM
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Yes, the CRJ200's are apparently going away (they said Endeavor would lose all theirs A couple of years ago, but did not). It is possible that some NY flying will replace some of the existing flying. Current popular rumor is that we will pick up some CRJ900's from somebody and open a LGA base. How likely is that? Who really knows? As for today, the checks keep clearing, the job is a relatively good one, and most of us will only leave for something better, not something lateral.
01-25-2017, 07:55 AM
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01-25-2017, 08:08 AM
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