Expressjet 2013/2014 Contract
11-21-2013, 06:12 AM
#61
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Can I ask you one thing? Would your company, you and your pilot group have done the same for any other pilot group if they were going through your situation? I am sure you know this but this industry works strictly on seniority and you know that is not transferrable when starting over.
So rather than say no one has helped us out, you guys did what was best for you and just leave it at that. Don't try to blame others for what you guys have now.
So rather than say no one has helped us out, you guys did what was best for you and just leave it at that. Don't try to blame others for what you guys have now.
11-21-2013, 06:13 AM
#62
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Position: Airbus
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Hey, don't forget about ACARS reassignment and checking in (just rumor, I don't know) - because we need to be babysat by these micromanagers. The little things, on top of but unrelated to compensation, are what will push me over the edge with a NO.
11-21-2013, 06:13 AM
#63
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Can I ask a fundamental question ?
Why do pilots blindly assume longevity is a valid basis for pay?
After IOE we are all doing the same job.
The 18 yr scale was brought in by Lorenzo and no one ever thinks to challenge it. If it did not exist then the hold companies have on pilots would be gone
If I could go to another carrier and not have to wait 18 yrs to top out I am more likely to do it.
Pilots do not think outside the box and I don't mean the one mfd by CAE or Flight Safety
Why do pilots blindly assume longevity is a valid basis for pay?
After IOE we are all doing the same job.
The 18 yr scale was brought in by Lorenzo and no one ever thinks to challenge it. If it did not exist then the hold companies have on pilots would be gone
If I could go to another carrier and not have to wait 18 yrs to top out I am more likely to do it.
Pilots do not think outside the box and I don't mean the one mfd by CAE or Flight Safety
11-21-2013, 06:28 AM
#64
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Position: PA34-200
Posts: 145
Can I ask a fundamental question ?
Why do pilots blindly assume longevity is a valid basis for pay?
After IOE we are all doing the same job.
The 18 yr scale was brought in by Lorenzo and no one ever thinks to challenge it. If it did not exist then the hold companies have on pilots would be gone
If I could go to another carrier and not have to wait 18 yrs to top out I am more likely to do it.
Pilots do not think outside the box and I don't mean the one mfd by CAE or Flight Safety
Why do pilots blindly assume longevity is a valid basis for pay?
After IOE we are all doing the same job.
The 18 yr scale was brought in by Lorenzo and no one ever thinks to challenge it. If it did not exist then the hold companies have on pilots would be gone
If I could go to another carrier and not have to wait 18 yrs to top out I am more likely to do it.
Pilots do not think outside the box and I don't mean the one mfd by CAE or Flight Safety
"I paid my dues now it's your turn " is exactly what management wants
11-21-2013, 12:56 PM
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