AtlCSIP

Why? Conjecture makes better internet discussion.

Bozo

Ooops! I forgot that this web board is not for factual information only B.S. My bad.


Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Nevets

"3. Direct Negotiations and Mediation.

a. Within twenty-one (21) days after (but not sooner than) the combined
membership ratification of a JCBA, the merger representatives will commence
direct negotiations on an ISL.

b. If the merger representatives have not reached agreement on an ISL within
forty-five (45) days after commencing direct negotiations, they shall work with
the Mediator for up to an additional thirty (30) day period in an effort to
conclude an ISL.

D. Arbitration.

1. If, at the end of the thirty (30) day period specified in Paragraph C.3.b., the merger representatives have not reached agreement on an ISL, the Arbitration Board will convene at a time when the arbitrators’ schedules allow.

5. The Arbitration Board will issue a final and binding ISL within sixty (60) days of the conclusion of testimony."

The unknown variables in this time line are, 1) how long after the 45 days of direct negotiations does the mediation begin, 2) how long after the 30 days of mediation will the arbitration board schedule allow them to convene, 3) how long will the arbitration itself take before the conclusion of testimony. I could easily see this taking 6+ months.

"2. The Integrated Seniority List shall have only a prospective effect. Specifically, and
without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the following conditions shall apply:

a. There shall be no “system flush” whereby a pilot may displace another pilot from 26
the latter’s position as a result of the implementation of the Integrated Seniority
List or the implementation or expiration of any condition or restriction"

There won't be a mass (flush) bid. As for fences, nobody knows.

wmupilot85

I did. Just as Nevets posted, lets look at those time lines.....

• 21 days after the JCBA, and they have 45 days to come to an agreement. That's a total of 66 days after the ratification of the JCBA.
• Additional 30 day period for the mediator for each group to work with. We're now at day 96.
• No agreement there, goes to arbitration, depending on the arbitrators schedule. Lets say the arbitrator can start on day 97, they have 60 days. Now we're at day 156.

That's pretty much just over 5 months. Put in some delays in there, and you're looking at 6 months at a minimum. We've been in negotiations for how many years now, and you honestly think that an ISL will go by without any issues, on a fast paced time line? Remember the mediator scheduling and how it had to be rescheduled....2 months in advance? How long for an arbitrator in this case as well?


I see this going to a minimum of 6 months, but upwards of close to 8 months is my opinion. As for the flush bid, I did miss that, but I knew that was never an option.

JoeMerchant

Official ASA MEC FB page for those who don't know....


https://www.facebook.com/groups/312592195569188/

Hou757

Why not make it open to XJT and ASA?

JoeMerchant

1. Why don't you have your own FB page?

2. Why can't we join as full members and see the cockpit section on the crackpipe?

3. I really don't give a crap....I was just posting it because one of our whiny kids like you said not enough was done to promote it, despite the fact that he did nothing....Tired of the whiny entitlement act...

JoeMerchant

Some day I am going to wake up and find out this whole buying XJT was just a nightmare.....

okonokos

Someday, you're going to wake up and realize you didn't have anything to do with buying XJT.

CL65driver

What a bunch of drama queens.