What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#9511
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
So you should ride it out a failing company instead of leaving early and beating the forced exodus? What if the company turns it around? You left because circumstances changed after you were hired, but the company turned it around. Now no one will hire me?
Is it really that hard to explain? If i'm in the interview, the company knows full where I've worked and for how long. If you aren't going to hire a pilot who left one regional for another, then why invite them for an interview in the first place?
What about the other way around? You left one regional with a quick upgrade and crappy contract for another with a much longer upgrade but better contract? Are you going to leave us for another airline when our contract is crap but some other major has a better one? Sounds like you're afraid of the added responsibility of becoming a Captain.
You can spin this stuff either way. The vast majority of this career is luck and timing.
Is it really that hard to explain? If i'm in the interview, the company knows full where I've worked and for how long. If you aren't going to hire a pilot who left one regional for another, then why invite them for an interview in the first place?
What about the other way around? You left one regional with a quick upgrade and crappy contract for another with a much longer upgrade but better contract? Are you going to leave us for another airline when our contract is crap but some other major has a better one? Sounds like you're afraid of the added responsibility of becoming a Captain.
You can spin this stuff either way. The vast majority of this career is luck and timing.
1 guys quit for stupid reasons all the time.
2 guys don't attempt to answer for there stupid decisions until the day there asked to in an interview. Mainly because they don't perceive them as a potential negative.
So create good answers then poke holes in those answers and make them even better. I've talked to several guys who have failed a interview. they didn't realize the failure was not what they were answering for but how they answered for it. A good interviewer will try to poke holes where they think your venerable. Guys come out the interview, "they didn't like blah blah blah", no they didn't like your response to "blah blah blah". They excepted it before they called you in, or they wouldn't have wasted their time.
#9512
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: CRJ 200 CA
Posts: 210
That's not how they look at it. What was was the upgrade time when you got hired? "5 years". How long did you stay? "3 years". Why did you you quit? "Upgrade time was taking too long, brand x was 8 months". So you knew it was 5 years the day you took the job and you didn't stay there and wait for what you agreed to when you took the job? Our upgrade time is 15years do you plan on leaving in 3 if brand x is only 8 and they hire you? "No sir" Well you have already proven that you would.
If you stay with a company that has no movement, and little flying or hope of getting off of reserve for 2 or more years you're not helping your position at all. In the above case you may have 1000 hours after 2 years of reserve, after 3 years maybe 1500 hours as SIC. If you get lucky and get an upgrade in 4 or 5 you'll have 2000 SIC, and maybe 500 PIC. Lucky to get an interview with that. For the majority of time you will be holding a reserve line. This is not what the regional contracts, or major airlines are looking for. You will live a miserable life commuting to reserve and not flying, you will not be making money, and you will not be getting flight hours. After 5 years you will be broke and have a marginal resume for a major airline. You did nothing for yourself, you had little personal growth, little quality of life, this is the hazardous attitude labeled resignation. No major airline is looking for that attitude, loyalty is a two way street.
Make the lateral move. Get 1000 SIC 121 hours within a year, get an upgrade to captain. Movement and growth allow you to get a line quickly, couple months vs. more than a year. You're now two years in have a predictable schedule and captain wages, you're getting hours, and probably holding the domicile you want, and you have 1000SIC, and 1000 PIC. This is a stronger resume than sticking with a contracting airline not providing upgrades. You showed initiative, took control of your life and career, made the tough choices that allowed for the personal growth needed to be a true professional. This is what any winning corporation is wants in an employee.
On one of my last flights with XJT I mentioned to the captain, who had been flying the same jet for 10 years, I was considering leaving. He mentioned that his sim partner made a lateral move for a quick upgrade time. The captain mentioned he didn't want to go through initial again, and it sounded like a lot of work, this conversation ended with him stating he was now happy where he was and probably wouldn't leave XJT. This all begged the question what happened to his sim partner, "oh, he's flying for United now."
#9513
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: CRJ 200 CA
Posts: 210
Delta would have no say since they have no stake, hard as they might try to stop it. AAs purchase of Bizex around 2000 is a good example. However, considering the overall situation within SKWY inc, it would be safe to assume inc is approaching all potential buyers and exploring all avenues to shed all or part of xjt while minimizing its losses in the process. If they just let us die they would have wasted hundreds of millions, if they find another avenue they recoup some cash and pride.
Any details are just rumor, but there may be a good reason why SKYW stock is at a 52 week high.
Any details are just rumor, but there may be a good reason why SKYW stock is at a 52 week high.
If SkyWest lets XJT go under, Sky Inc. sells the assets, I'm sure some could be sold to SkyWest to help them with the new flying they gained from ASA no longer being around, and some of the flying they will gain from the loss of LXJT. All this under new contracts that will be profitable. Sky Inc. also immediately increase it's profits as XJT looses them money every time it launches a flight. Is there any reason for Sky Inc. to keep XJT around, if they go under it's a win/win for SkyWest.
#9514
The other view as a selling point for SKYW is the new owner could control its competitor's feed, ie dal would own a UAX carrier or the other way around. It happened in the past and I'm sure a major would do whatever necessary to stop it from happening again, which also happened in the past, re: the Bisex story.
#9515
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
I think its clear a major will buy a regional because their gonna get sticker shock with new CPA bids. During a labor surplus its cheaper to contract it out. During a shortage it's cheaper to have your own guys. Contractors are able to capitalize on a shortage much easier than a union.
#9516
At the last job fair I went to, both the Alaska and United recruiters ENCOURAGED me to go somewhere I could get TPIC time faster. Case closed.
#9520
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: The Bird is the Word
Posts: 27
Look Guys, the Legacy Carriers simply can't exist without Regional Feed. Just as you've seen massive consolidation of Legacy Carriers, you will see massive consolidation of Regional and LCC.
I predict the Majors will once again want the full control of their feed and repurchase Regionals. Farming it out has proven disastrous to feed stability.
I also predict that once purchased that they will just give the now Wholly Owned Regional Pilots a Seniority Number because that will prevent the FO's from jumping around like a bunch of damn crickets. The Legacy Carriers require Regional Stability and they will have it.
I predict the Majors will once again want the full control of their feed and repurchase Regionals. Farming it out has proven disastrous to feed stability.
I also predict that once purchased that they will just give the now Wholly Owned Regional Pilots a Seniority Number because that will prevent the FO's from jumping around like a bunch of damn crickets. The Legacy Carriers require Regional Stability and they will have it.
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