What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
03-28-2015, 04:50 AM
#9171
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 203
ANYTIME airline management says shrinking is good.... It's bad!!! The quotes and sayings in the message is to cover up the fact they have ZERO plan for this company except to wait for the others to fail. That's really not a plan but like throwing a quarter into a wishing well, finding a Genie bottle or determining your future by flipping a heads/tails coin.... See what I did there. Easy isn't it!!!
03-28-2015, 08:08 AM
#9172
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
It's the same crap they feed over at SkyWest. "Keep our performance up, our major partners will recognize us." "Our performance is what sets us apart." Problem is, as you alluded to, they don't care. It's all about cost. There's no way Inc is going to be able to drive down costs enough at SkyWest or ExpressJet to be able to meaningfully bid on new flying against the likes of Mesa, TSA, Compass, etc.. As long as those places can keep hiring, then that's where the flying will go. Sure, you may get little bits and pieces like 7 175 for AS or 15 145 for AA, but nothing substantial that's going to outweigh the downsizing that's set to take place on both sides.
They can do a better job at competing on cost if they would just merge the two airlines. That's why they are consolidating the benefits department for the two airlines, cost savings. But I guess the huge cost savings in merging the two airlines doesn't offset the suppressed wages they get from whipsawing the non-union pilot group with the union side. Thanks for that.
03-28-2015, 05:15 PM
#9173
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,827
It's the same crap they feed over at SkyWest. "Keep our performance up, our major partners will recognize us." "Our performance is what sets us apart." Problem is, as you alluded to, they don't care. It's all about cost. There's no way Inc is going to be able to drive down costs enough at SkyWest or ExpressJet to be able to meaningfully bid on new flying against the likes of Mesa, TSA, Compass, etc.. As long as those places can keep hiring, then that's where the flying will go. Sure, you may get little bits and pieces like 7 175 for AS or 15 145 for AA, but nothing substantial that's going to outweigh the downsizing that's set to take place on both sides.
03-30-2015, 07:30 AM
#9175
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: 90-18
Posts: 6
Reps generally only take meetings off, unless they are volunteers as well. Volunteers get days off depending on the need. Certain groups CNC, PWG, and pairing construction know what days off they are going to need ahead of time and they use IPBs to block off those days. Other volunteers take FPL as needed and as directed by the chairmen of their committee.
Most volunteer come in on their days off and don't get paid for it.
Most volunteer come in on their days off and don't get paid for it.
03-30-2015, 11:28 AM
#9176
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 20
Get their keys to the shop and escort them out.
03-30-2015, 12:18 PM
#9178
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 339
How dare you all criticize the hard working members of the LEC/MEC and volunteers that donate THEIR time to YOU for the betterment of your life on the line!
I cannot believe that this pilot group would even think bad about a spineless, greedy, self centered and narcissistic group of people that have continuously sold out this entire group for their own gain!
03-30-2015, 12:54 PM
#9179
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 424
No fireworks at the LEC meeting. Not a peep.
03-30-2015, 12:55 PM
#9180
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 532
Why are we angry at them? I mean I was angry when they were screaming rapture was coming if we voted no on the TA and then turned around and said "we're so glad yall voted no, that's what we really wanted you to do".. But what have the done lately? Or not done?
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