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Old 03-25-2015, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
AND.....when those airplane deliveries are done, the bottom half of your list will be stuck in the right seat dreaming of upgrade while all the "me no speaky english" and failed checkride/DUI pilots Mesa hired over the phone will be stuck in the left seat for life since they can go nowhere else.
Fortunately the negative demographic of pilots about which you speak is a small fraction of the overall Mesa pilot group. Our demographics of pilots with no degrees, checkride failures, violations, etc., is the same as any other regional. So your post is invalid. Enjoy losing relative seniority every month. Maybe it will keep making you more delusional. I had 3 or 4 XJT guys in my newhire class. But I haven't heard of any Mesa guys jumping ship for any other regional, certainly not stagnant or shrinking ones like XJT. Good luck.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:02 PM
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Mesa, Parker's butt boys.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:17 PM
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It's risky going to a place like Mesa. One little set back with a company that small and your plans for a quick upgrade are shot for good. Then you're stuck as an FO there.

If it works out and you get lucky more power to you but the history for companies growing too fast hasn't always been too favorable.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptOveur
It's risky going to a place like Mesa. One little set back with a company that small and your plans for a quick upgrade are shot for good. Then you're stuck as an FO there.

If it works out and you get lucky more power to you but the history for companies growing too fast hasn't always been too favorable.
Fortunately Mesa isn't growing very fast. Not like PSA/TSA. We will still be way smaller than we were a few years ago.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:48 PM
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ASA's problem is that those in charge really believe the other regionsls can't staff and that the signing bonuses aren't really working.. when in fact they are. Meanwhile they offer a $7500 bonus if you have a type rating (because after taxes that makes first year pay affordable). Then when they can't fill classes they spin it by saying that "shrinking is a good thing for us"... They also believe that Expressjet really is better than the rest, when in reality a regional is a stepping stone. Nothing more. In short, their heads are up their butts.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
But I haven't heard of any Mesa guys jumping ship for any other regional,
No other regional will hire them.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
No other regional will hire them.
Umm the guy who got fired from Mesa recently is already at gojet. Me and several guys in my class could have gone to any regional. If you have ATPS mins and a pulse every regional will hire you right now. You must not be very in tune to the state of the regionals right now. Or are like facebiter and plug your ears and start screaming.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
Is everyone who was so worried about the attrition data happy now that it is out for the month of March? Has your life all of a sudden changed as a result? Does the publishing of attrition data mean that your bank account will suddenly have an extra $120K in it?

Exactly...it doesn't change anything.

Why people are so obsessed with that data baffles me. I've said it before and I'll say it again: FOs hired after 7/2007, you have little to almost zero chance of ever upgrading. We lose 25+ per month and yet everyone goes backwards or stays the same in bidding. Become a part of these attrition stats, not just a casual viewer of them!!
Guys got a point. Pretty glum statement but, true none the less.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
ASA's problem is that those in charge really believe the other regionsls can't staff and that the signing bonuses aren't really working.. when in fact they are. Meanwhile they offer a $7500 bonus if you have a type rating (because after taxes that makes first year pay affordable). Then when they can't fill classes they spin it by saying that "shrinking is a good thing for us"... They also believe that Expressjet really is better than the rest, when in reality a regional is a stepping stone. Nothing more. In short, their heads are up their butts.
Used to be a stepping stone. And still should be a stepping stone. But…….

Have you seen the "Lifer" list yet? Getting pretty chubby
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:23 PM
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Guys got a point. Pretty glum statement but, true none the less.

I hate being so negative, but enough already! People pine for that attrition info as if it has the secret key to an interview at a major listed in it somewhere. It's a simple truth, we're losing guys left and right and somehow ZERO upgrades are happening, and did I mention that summer is coming and they've missed the window for a postion notice that would have new CAs on the line by June 1. Looks like another Summer where you move down 5-10 spots because of the IPs being flexed back into every seat, especially CRJ FO ATL.
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