What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
02-12-2015, 01:26 PM
#8851
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
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02-12-2015, 04:27 PM
#8855
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 706
With the way they have it worded, I think I'm ok with it. Lets say the company claims you owe $350, but Gazelle.com only says $250. You pay the company $250, and then Gazelle.com will give you $250 for yours. You don't need to find a buyer, unless you want to go through eBay or craigslist.
They begin to hit the line in April, will a full rollout by June.
They begin to hit the line in April, will a full rollout by June.
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02-13-2015, 02:13 AM
#8858
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Capt
Posts: 611
And none of what they discussed was new information. All the lease returns are known quantities and Chip seemed quite pleased with the performance of the ERJ side. They aren't breaking even yet but they aren't the cash drain they used to be.
I can tell be your tone you hate that side of the house so why don't you get in touch with Chip, Jerry, et.al and convince them to get rid of them.
Remember they play chess and you play checkers.
I can tell be your tone you hate that side of the house so why don't you get in touch with Chip, Jerry, et.al and convince them to get rid of them.
Remember they play chess and you play checkers.
There it is. Plain as day in the conference call. It's almost over. Don't be a fool. Get the heck out.
02-13-2015, 08:06 AM
#8859
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
I did scoff at the idea of two separate work rules because I think it hurts us. But hey, who am I to tell you guys what's best for you? But if that's how it has to be then fine. I want a big fat signing bonus. That's exactly what I said before. I'm not changing my story. If we can't be brought up to your level, but you get to have all these great things, then ****ing right I want to be compensated for that. What does it bother you if we get a signing bonus? Its not your money. If we can't get anything better then what we have now so you can keep your precious outliers, I want to see the money. In the words of, well you, what's the problem?
Am I entitled? Damn straight! I and all the rest of us have been busting our asses everyday for years for this company. Getting dicked around, furloughed, and whatever else you can think of. I've been working for this company longer than any other LXJT pilot. Not to say you don't deserve yours. After all the **** they've put us through, you bet your ass I want what we deserve. To say I'm entitled to compensation on your dime I find insulting. We work our asses off just like you. So don't compare me to some welfare recipient who sits around and reaps the benefits off others hard work.
Am I entitled? Damn straight! I and all the rest of us have been busting our asses everyday for years for this company. Getting dicked around, furloughed, and whatever else you can think of. I've been working for this company longer than any other LXJT pilot. Not to say you don't deserve yours. After all the **** they've put us through, you bet your ass I want what we deserve. To say I'm entitled to compensation on your dime I find insulting. We work our asses off just like you. So don't compare me to some welfare recipient who sits around and reaps the benefits off others hard work.
Ok, settle down. I'm wasn't trying to insult you. But let's step back a moment here. I'm all for you guys getting the things we have AND vice versa. I think we agree that that is ideal. BUT IF we are to believe that the company will not agree to anything that increases pilot labor costs, then there are only three alternatives: stay separate (which I'm not in favor of unless the alternative is concessions), negotiate a new TA in which the two pilot group costs are equalized (meaning that the ERJ pilots would take a concession and the CRJ pilots would realize a gain), or grandfather the ERJ pilots. Now, where in that last scenario can the CRJ pilots get a bonus (which I'm not against) without it not increasing pilot labor costs? Your bonus would essentially be getting the things the ERJ pilots have in our contract. But we already established that the company isn't going to increase pilot labor costs.
This is why I said you are changing your story now. Given the constraints, your "bonus" idea doesn't float. So yeah, that's why I disagreed that I was obama when I fact you are the one demonstrating the entitlement attitude that you can't live with the fact that your neighbor may have it better so you want your piece of the pie or else you will throw a tantrum.
That's just the perception I get from what you wrote.
02-13-2015, 08:10 AM
#8860
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
That wasn't new information either. But yeah, by the end of 2017, as it stand now, there won't be anymore ERJs. Hope everyone has their plan b ready.
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