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Old 02-03-2015, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
"Latest News Headlines for SkyWest Inc
SkyWest Treasurer Michael J. Kraupp Resigns *
Tuesday 02/03/2015 06:28 AM ET - Dow Jones News"
I wonder if he resigned based on his own decision or Skywest forced him to resign for some reason.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway
So, GoJet took on DL flying at a loss a few years ago in order to get growth, SKW said no new flying for XJT at a loss. Growth has allowed GoJet to attract more pilots and, it seems, more DL Jets. Stagnation has eliminated XJT's ability to get more pilots and we continue to lose jets. GoJet starts to grow even more. XJT barely hanging on. Meanwhile, the MEC's are fighting to the death over PBS.

Doesn't matter how you bid if there's no airline left to bid schedules at. I'm not saying that the lack of a contract is preventing us from getting flying. I'm saying we need to get our priorities straight.

I'm not an airline executive, but it seems like whatever strategy GoJet used wasn't as "stupid" as we were led to believe.
This is the last piece of the puzzle thanks to your parent company negotiating that wonderful rate reset with Delta. Now they have 2 cheap operators on the 900 also. Got to love it. If There wasn't this rate reset looming Delta probably wouldn't have taken on the Pinnacle project. Pinnacle probably would've disappeared. Comair might still be here. GoJet probably wouldn't have grown. I'm just rambling, carry on
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway
So, GoJet took on DL flying at a loss a few years ago in order to get growth, SKW said no new flying for XJT at a loss. Growth has allowed GoJet to attract more pilots and, it seems, more DL Jets. Stagnation has eliminated XJT's ability to get more pilots and we continue to lose jets. GoJet starts to grow even more. XJT barely hanging on. Meanwhile, the MEC's are fighting to the death over PBS.

Doesn't matter how you bid if there's no airline left to bid schedules at. I'm not saying that the lack of a contract is preventing us from getting flying. I'm saying we need to get our priorities straight.

I'm not an airline executive, but it seems like whatever strategy GoJet used wasn't as "stupid" as we were led to believe.
Not sure GoJet is taking a loss flying the delta contract. Hulas doesn't do that and it's a privately held company so no one really knows for sure (can't prove it) if it's at a loss. They're just dirt cheap...cheaper than ASA so that's probably the reality.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:24 AM
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Capt. Tony isn't Santa Claus. He can't ride in on his unicorn and sprinkle pixy dust around and make everything OK. The power lies with the pilots. If they leave places like XJT for places like GoJet, then the pilots only have themselves to blame.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
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It also doesn't help when contract negotiators are moving on to Major airlines.

Minus *********** of course.
Well lookie here. Another Internet Tough Guy taking cheap shots behind a keyboard and screen name. Yawn...

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Old 02-03-2015, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Capt. Tony isn't Santa Claus. He can't ride in on his unicorn and sprinkle pixy dust around and make everything OK. The power lies with the pilots. If they leave places like XJT for places like GoJet, then the pilots only have themselves to blame.
There's plenty of blame to go around. The only reason that regional airline contracts existed in the first place was to farm cheap labor out, and the only reason this cheap labor existed was the promise of a better job. Take away the incentive of getting the experience required for the better job, and you've lost that cheap labor. Regional FOs are, within the industry, the cheapest labor.

You can blame the slow demise of this company on the junior FOs who are bailing for quicker upgrades or refusing to come here for LONG ones, or you can blame the company for trying to change the rules of a game whose rules were established LONG ago.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacos
I wonder if he resigned based on his own decision or Skywest forced him to resign for some reason.
The Treasurer "resigns", methinks there might be some overcooked books, my bet is he left Tom Saywer on too long....
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Old 02-03-2015, 12:32 PM
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Why not get off the internet and get a contract done?
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ja2c
Why not get off the internet and get a contract done?
You have to be in negotiations to get a contract done. I don't even think we are meeting with the company right now. My plan is go to work, get paid, update apps, network and hope my bingo ball get called ( of course I mean update apps at a Major not another regional.)
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Hmm. Where did "we" leave that magic wand...?
You mean after 5 years the only solution you guys could come up with was we need a magic wand to get this done? Give me a break. Now we know why nothing is getting done. The logical solution is obviously a genie. Someone's gotta have a business card in their wallet for one of those. Or maybe we can send Nevets to the Arabian Desert to look for one. Only a genie has the power to save us from this mess
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