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Old 01-07-2015, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
This is incorrect. Plus, your telling me everyone that leaves XJT just volunteers the information of where they are leaving? Sorry, calling BS. I personally know people who didn't even give a 2 week notice, so I doubt they told XJT anything.

I could care less whether XJT pilots come over or not. Its a personal decision. What is more than clear is the future of a junior pilot at one place vs. the other is dramatically different.

I'm pretty sure they can figure it out thanks to PRIA requests.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:42 AM
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I'm pretty sure they can figure it out thanks to PRIA requests.
Publishing stats found through Pria requests. Yeah, that sounds totally legal.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
This is incorrect. Plus, your telling me everyone that leaves XJT just volunteers the information of where they are leaving? Sorry, calling BS. I personally know people who didn't even give a 2 week notice, so I doubt they told XJT anything.

I could care less whether XJT pilots come over or not. Its a personal decision. What is more than clear is the future of a junior pilot at one place vs. the other is dramatically different.
Sorry, but it is correct.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:03 AM
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Sorry, but it is correct.
Don't know your source, but I have personally seen more than that many in interviews coming from ASA/XJT, but if it makes you feel better and justify all your hate for TSA on here, then fine you're right. You know more than what I have seen with my eyes and you win all internet points.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
Don't know your source, but I have personally seen more than that many in interviews coming from ASA/XJT, but if it makes you feel better and justify all your hate for TSA on here, then fine you're right. You know more than what I have seen with my eyes and you win all internet points.
Source is published on our employee website. Plus, just because you see them in an interview does not mean they took the job.
No hate being spread. Just the facts.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
How is it that Captain Tony seems to be the only guy who is willing to face the reality of what is going on in this thread?
All Captain Tony did was quote current contract expiration dates and surmised that things are not so rosy here. I really don't see how you extrapolate that to say that he is the only one willing to face reality here. When we started as an airline we had no contracts anywhere. We couldn't quote contract expiration dates because they didn't exist. We currently have contracts that begin to expire in 2017. Since 6 months is a long time in the Regional Airline industry, getting overly concerned about what might happen in 2+ years is somewhat melodramatic. I don't think we should stick our heads in the sand and pretend bad things can't happen, but we still have a very long way to go before things actually get that bad.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:07 AM
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Hou757, I kind of have to agree with Pilottim on this. In December, there are 4 FO's who are unaccounted for in the attrition data. The attrition PDF they put out is nice with all the colorful graphs, but it is definitely not 100% accurate. See the "other" column and get back to us.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
Hou757, I kind of have to agree with Pilottim on this. In December, there are 4 FO's who are unaccounted for in the attrition data. The attrition PDF they put out is nice with all the colorful graphs, but it is definitely not 100% accurate. See the "other" column and get back to us.
I see what you are looking at but that still is not very many pilots!
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:27 AM
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I see what you are looking at but that still is not very many pilots!
True, 4 out of 32 FO's in one month is not a lot. But they had quite an accumulation of the other column over a 12 month period. If I were a betting man, I'd say over half of those are guys doing the lateral dance.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
True, 4 out of 32 FO's in one month is not a lot. But they had quite an accumulation of the other column over a 12 month period. If I were a betting man, I'd say over half of those are guys doing the lateral dance.
I'm just thinking that the TSA deal really did not start until October/November. Any of the "others" prior to that were probably not part of the CQFO program and were at PSA or Compass. I don't think more than 11 have taken the CQFO offer at Transtates.

Many TSA folks keep posting on here that CQFO classes are full of XJT folks. I just don't see that being the case based on the attrition data.
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