Av8rking

This does not make sense. I was simply making a comparison based on what the original poster had quoted. There is no way in hell the pilots in this group would take a 50% pay cut. I was just simply proving a point.

afterburn81

You know, that's probably only about 75% true. I'm willing to bet that if times were different with no union and certain rules if the company said "ok folks you have two choices, leave or take a 50% pay cut" at least 25% of the group would continue to fly no questions asked.

There is no unity here.

freezingflyboy

Point taken. Yes, admittedly my numbers were a complete WAG. But the idea is valid. Over the last decades, managements and BODs have routinely enriched themselves on the backs of employees and at the expense of consumers. And with what to show for it? American businesses, especially the airlines, are weaker than their foreign counterparts and are losing relevance in the world economy every day.

stbloc

Whats hiring like right now? Are hey having a hard time with the 1500 hour rule?

freezingflyboy

Last thing I had heard was that they had exhausted the pool of applicants who would meet ATP mins by the deadline. Essentially hiring has stopped but it may pick up sometime later this year.

Leroy Smith

The deeper problem is that there are few organizations really concerned with long term efficiencies. Corporations are no longer truly about making things or providing services, they are vessels for arbitrage. They are about reorganizing resources in such a manner to extract profit. The majority of managers do not fully understand the processes they manage, do not value the people they employ who do understand, and dont care because they can achieve their own short-term personal goals regardless. Look at this recent REAS deal. The shift to REAS put ASA, CMR, XJ, SKW employees with 10,20,30 or more years of knowledge and experience of how tho run a station efficiently and safely either on the street or looking to leave for anything else rather than stay with the reset pay and benefits. We all see the result of this everyday. Will it benefit DL in the long run? Maybe the cost/benefit does work on paper, but in the long term and in all the ways that do not show up in a G.O. powerpoint??

The cycle will not be broken, Rome is getting combustible.

SiShane

I interviewed two weeks ago at 1120 TT but haven't heard anything back yet. I'm at 1165 now. Just plugging along waiting, no news is good news I hear.

airline rc

No classes announced as of 08/15, but as always subject to change at a moments notice.

Today 1200TT required for interview or to be placed in class...no exceptions.

1235 TT required beginning October 01. Increasing by
35 hours per month after that.

Thanks HR5900!

PerpetualFlyer

Are too stubborn to see this is the best thing to ever happen to this industry? God forbid you have to work a little longer to get into a crappy regional.

Banshee365

I'm sure LOT's of CA's are saying the same thing! It would be nice to have new hires that know how to fly and airplane with stick and rudder (leave the yaw damper comments to yourself it's a figure of speech) skills rather than button pushing. I've had to listen to many guy's blabbing about how there last FO had 400 hr's and couldn't handle basic hand flying on a visual approach to the point of getting aural warnings.

I just saw this very same thing from a 9+ year FO while jumpseating home the other night but there are alway's going to be those type's.