What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
10-16-2014, 02:21 PM
#7761
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Back in right seat
Posts: 208
ahhh ok. understood.
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
10-16-2014, 02:46 PM
#7762
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: CRJ200 Capt.
Posts: 822
ahhh ok. understood.
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
I agree that a TA can't pass right now that cuts your retirement and insurance. That's why I believe Inc. is just going to draw down your side until most of the votes are on the ASA side.
The new Inc. management, doesn't really care if we ever merge at this point. They say the synergy isn't really there. The ASA side will likely bid on some of the 145 flying. Eventually the LXJT will be much smaller.
10-16-2014, 03:33 PM
#7763
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by somertime32
I think he was speaking of other regionals when he said nobody has it anymore. Personally I would love a DC plan. As somebody said a few posts ago if a JCBA comes out it better be the same for everybody. No ERJ this or CRJ that.
ahhh ok. understood.
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
Originally Posted by somertime32
I think he was speaking of other regionals when he said nobody has it anymore. Personally I would love a DC plan. As somebody said a few posts ago if a JCBA comes out it better be the same for everybody. No ERJ this or CRJ that.
ahhh ok. understood.
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
10-16-2014, 04:24 PM
#7764
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Back in right seat
Posts: 208
You know that management has said 145 flying will never go to ASA or skywest side. As I understand it there are opportunities for 145 flying. Now that the worthless dwarf of a COO is gone maybe we can all go ahead and advance together for once.
I wonder if flying with JohnBre... is as bad experience as it appears when he's online
10-16-2014, 06:09 PM
#7765
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 259
Bummer you forgot about that goodwill. Bummer it wasn't extended for the entirety of the furlough as well.
Despite the bad rep, deserved or not, that Pilot (you?) really went to bat for the junior folks. On that one, hats off, well done!
10-17-2014, 01:50 AM
#7766
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Reclined seat
Posts: 629
I don't think he means a transfer of flying. I think he means that the contracts expire, or get terminated early and rebid on with CRJ or E170 flying, not 145's.
10-17-2014, 06:37 AM
#7767
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Position: CRJ
Posts: 419
And maybe someone can correct me here, but I'm pretty sure that if there are pairings left that will not add up to 90 for this example, but at least 75 hours, it will still award a schedule before reserve correct?
10-17-2014, 06:44 AM
#7768
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Position: CRJ
Posts: 419
ahhh ok. understood.
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
Obviously, it would be ideal that everyone get the extra retirement contribution.
I was just amazed at the roadshow for the jcba how an asa rep answered a question that it was the best deal for everyone when he was going to get a raise as a senior asa guy and i was keeping my old rate (3 cent/hr raise) PLUS losing my DC plan (i.e. pay cut).
This is going to be the main problem with a new jcba, the asa folks have to be brought up to the l-xjt level benefits - isn't that an argument why the asa mec should give up on flightline ... your pilots are going to be getting much more out of a new jcba than the erj guys, a little give and take
10-17-2014, 06:51 AM
#7769
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 544
Nope, if you don't make it in the window you'll get reserve. However they'll typically lower the bottom of the window during bid runs if too much open time is being left over.
10-17-2014, 08:47 AM
#7770
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
We can not have any JCBA which includes either side getting something different from the other side. That will do nothing but continue to cultivate an "us vs. them" mentality on both sides, ultimately destroying any bargaining capability we collectively might have in the future. Like it or not, a JCBA is better for most of the 4200ish pilots that currently make up ExpressJet.
Maybe, maybe not. But the fact is that each group requires different things in order to ratify. I would prefer that all of us get the B fund and everything else we have and everyone gets all the better things you have. That still brings us to PBS, which is why the PBS process agreement was a good idea. It let the crj side keep flight line for the duration of the JCBA.
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