What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#7501
This is 100% UAL, pure and simple, she is a UAL insider, she will do whatever her masters decide is the best course of action. SKYW stock has been dribbling down in price on the market, this is a quantum quandary....
#7503
After having been in this industry for quite a while now, I have seen quite a few extremes happen. This is a new paradigm, UAL and the big 3 have finished their consolidations, now its the regionals turn for change. This goes back to the "pilot shortage", believe it or not, the reason isn't pertinent, pay ect, the reality is, it takes a while to "create" a pilot from scratch, even a fully qualified 121 pilot takes 4-8 weeks to transition him/her onto the seniority list. Inability to operate even one major airline grade A/C for a day is expensive, and lets face it, while pilots are expensive, its way more expensive to be short on them. This will be an exercise in cost containment, ready made pilots who are "shake and bake" ready are far less expensive than free range candidates. Read between the lines, the new COO comes from a "Future Strategies Group", your future is being determined at a conference table in ORD, or has already been determined. BH likes to think of himself as a line pilot, maybe he wasn't willing to participate in the "new" plan......
#7504
It will be interesting to say the least. I'm so glad there is a pilot shortage these days and everyone on here has interviews lined up somewhere so we can leave if we don't like the way the wind blows!
Who am I kidding. Let's see what happens.
#7505
Sorry,
After having been in this industry for quite a while now, I have seen quite a few extremes happen. This is a new paradigm, UAL and the big 3 have finished their consolidations, now its the regionals turn for change. This goes back to the "pilot shortage", believe it or not, the reason isn't pertinent, pay ect, the reality is, it takes a while to "create" a pilot from scratch, even a fully qualified 121 pilot takes 4-8 weeks to transition him/her onto the seniority list. Inability to operate even one major airline grade A/C for a day is expensive, and lets face it, while pilots are expensive, its way more expensive to be short on them. This will be an exercise in cost containment, ready made pilots who are "shake and bake" ready are far less expensive than free range candidates. Read between the lines, the new COO comes from a "Future Strategies Group", your future is being determined at a conference table in ORD, or has already been determined. BH likes to think of himself as a line pilot, maybe he wasn't willing to participate in the "new" plan......
After having been in this industry for quite a while now, I have seen quite a few extremes happen. This is a new paradigm, UAL and the big 3 have finished their consolidations, now its the regionals turn for change. This goes back to the "pilot shortage", believe it or not, the reason isn't pertinent, pay ect, the reality is, it takes a while to "create" a pilot from scratch, even a fully qualified 121 pilot takes 4-8 weeks to transition him/her onto the seniority list. Inability to operate even one major airline grade A/C for a day is expensive, and lets face it, while pilots are expensive, its way more expensive to be short on them. This will be an exercise in cost containment, ready made pilots who are "shake and bake" ready are far less expensive than free range candidates. Read between the lines, the new COO comes from a "Future Strategies Group", your future is being determined at a conference table in ORD, or has already been determined. BH likes to think of himself as a line pilot, maybe he wasn't willing to participate in the "new" plan......
#7506
The Future Strategies concept is intriguing. Think about it for a few minutes, what would happen if airline "A" decided to take airline "B"s market share? More than a few ways to do it, fare wares are expensive and create ill will when the fares go back up. Or how about grounding some of the competition's flights, by hiring their skilled operators? The simple act of hiring employees, can/could achieve the desired results. Hiring the replacements for grounded flights is classic Art of War strategy. In an industry where strategy consists of replacing the A/C toilet paper with ghostply grade TP, applying a treatise that is a couple millennium old is not terribly inventive, but when everybody else is bumping into walls, it will work....
#7507
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,519
The Future Strategies concept is intriguing. Think about it for a few minutes, what would happen if airline "A" decided to take airline "B"s market share? More than a few ways to do it, fare wares are expensive and create ill will when the fares go back up. Or how about grounding some of the competition's flights, by hiring their skilled operators? The simple act of hiring employees, can/could achieve the desired results. Hiring the replacements for grounded flights is classic Art of War strategy. In an industry where strategy consists of replacing the A/C toilet paper with ghostply grade TP, applying a treatise that is a couple millennium old is not terribly inventive, but when everybody else is bumping into walls, it will work....
I am also very doubtful anything you are saying closely relates to Sun Tzu writings.
#7508
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
Re, Hiring pilots and expanding into the competitions market share:
In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack – the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers. The direct and the indirect lead on to each other in turn. It is like moving in a circle – you never come to an end. Who can exhaust the possibilities of their combination?
- Sun Tzu
Hiring the talent, means pick of the litter, and being able to train them:
Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.
- Sun Tzu
Lack of info:
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu
Expanding markets, when the competition can't staff them:
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
I guess you are right, if you cant see the correlation.
Last edited by ClickClickBoom; 09-24-2014 at 11:31 AM.
#7509
1# Airline pilots are skilled machine operators, with a lengthily training
process.
2# Expansion of routes/market share is dependent on available assets
equipment and personnel.
3# The new COO is a longtime UAL player.
If you were an employer, would you prefer to pay a starting pay rate higher than 1st year if there were any way around it? Think like your opponent.
Occam's Razor would dictate that she is just going to be the new COO.
First question to Occam, Why? Her? Now?
I think there may be more in play than, just because, Brad wants to move back to SGU and play golf with Ron Reber.
#7510
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,519
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack – the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers. The direct and the indirect lead on to each other in turn. It is like moving in a circle – you never come to an end. Who can exhaust the possibilities of their combination?
- Sun Tzu
Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.
- Sun Tzu
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
I guess you are right, if you cant see the correlation.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack – the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers. The direct and the indirect lead on to each other in turn. It is like moving in a circle – you never come to an end. Who can exhaust the possibilities of their combination?
- Sun Tzu
Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.
- Sun Tzu
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
I guess you are right, if you cant see the correlation.
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