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Old 09-17-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Well put! ASA guys take action! By removing this guy and others like him we just might see some progress.... Progress that benefits BOTH sides. You MUST get this guy off of your negotiating team..
You need to mind your own business. What the ASA pilots do now is none of your business. Your pilot group has attached it's future to a misguided and dysfunctional XJT MEC. Keep playing with your little SmartPref project and keep your resume updated...Let us worry about Capt Tony and our MEC...Thanks for your concern...
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
No different than you trying to force FlightLine on us. The last TA actually had a fare agreement for PBS for both sides. If we were going to "shove" anything it would be Line Bidding..
Flightline is a tested and proven industry leading PBS. Smartpref is an untested PBS that doesn't honor seniority. Go ahead and try to "shove" line bidding....Company isn't going to sign anything with line bidding.

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Remove Capt. Tony ASA folks! We need unity!
Remove LXJT.....We need a divorce!
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Oh, please... that's horsesh*t and you know it. You step down and there will be 10 lined up to take your place without you even asking. But we all know you don't get to be in a position like you without being buddy-buddy with someone.
Why are you here, didn't you bail to mesa?
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
So you are honestly going to try and convince us that the reason the two MECs haven't been getting along the past 4 years is because of a single member of the CNC that has only been involved for 6 months and was a leader in the NO campaign on the failed TA. You are delusional....
That's not what I said. I'm not trying to convince anyone our failed negotiations are single handedly CA tonys fault. That is ridiculous. The union is much larger than one very small minded individual. What I am saying is the fact that someone of CA tonys caliber is on the negotiation committee is very telling about ASA's union leadership. It's scary that they would even allow themselves to be associated with him. His post are so inflammatory that you would think he comes on here to flame bait, but he does not. He is just telling everyone what he really thinks, which if you read his previous post does not shine brightly on his character. He obviously is not a leader, but a divider. Who wants a person like that to be leading negotiations of two companies during a merger?
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:43 AM
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Funny how the two people asking for me to be removed have admitted they work for XJT and are new APC members. Seems to me the XJT MEC finally figured out how to use the interwebs. ASA pilots, if they want me out this badly, sounds likr they're losing. And they can talk unity all they want, what I've seen them do behind closed doors sure ain't unity. The ASA MEC represents the interests of the ASA pilots. NOT the joint group. We are separate MECs and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:44 AM
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That's not what I said. I'm not trying to convince anyone our failed negotiations are single handedly CA tonys fault. That is ridiculous. The union is much larger than one very small minded individual. What I am saying is the fact that someone of CA tonys caliber is on the negotiation committee is very telling about ASA's union leadership. It's scary that they would even allow themselves to be associated with him. His post are so inflammatory that you would think he comes on here to flame bait, but he does not. He is just telling everyone what he really thinks, which if you read his previous post does not shine brightly on his character. He obviously is not a leader, but a divider. Who wants a person like that to be leading negotiations of two companies?
No, what's really funny is that you're making character assessments based on posts on an anonymous message board. Maybe, just MAYBE the people calling the shots know me better than you do, and keep me around for a reason...?
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by captlonestar
That's not what I said. I'm not trying to convince anyone our failed negotiations are single handedly CA tonys fault. That is ridiculous. The union is much larger than one very small minded individual. What I am saying is the fact that someone of CA tonys caliber is on the negotiation committee is very telling about ASA's union leadership. It's scary that they would even allow themselves to be associated with him. His post are so inflammatory that you would think he comes on here to flame bait, but he does not. He is just telling everyone what he really thinks, which if you read his previous post does not shine brightly on his character. He obviously is not a leader, but a divider. Who wants a person like that to be leading negotiations of two companies during a merger?
You really don't get it do you? We're done trying to work with your side. It simply isn't possible. Your culture is too different for this to ever work. Our MEC is protecting our pilots. There is no reason to try and make this work anymore. The last of the United re-fleeting aircraft were just given to Republic. Your flying is going to be replaced by Mesa, SkyWest, and Republic. You made your bed, now go climb in it and quit worrying about our MEC.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
No, what's really funny is that you're making character assessments based on posts on an anonymous message board. Maybe, just MAYBE the people calling the shots know me better than you do, and keep me around for a reason...?
Everyone knows who you are. You have shown your character on this board already.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:06 AM
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Just do whatever you think you can do, tough guy.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:08 AM
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You really don't get it do you? We're done trying to work with your side. It simply isn't possible. Your culture is too different for this to ever work. Our MEC is protecting our pilots. There is no reason to try and make this work anymore. The last of the United re-fleeting aircraft were just given to Republic. Your flying is going to be replaced by Mesa, SkyWest, and Republic. You made your bed, now go climb in it and quit worrying about our MEC.
Cornered animals tend to fight the hardest right before they get eaten.
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