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Old 06-05-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
It's not paid. They usually nab u at the end of a trip for those tests anyways. It sucks at takes up about 20 min of your time. It's regulatory and mandated by the government, so that's probably why they get away with not paying us to do a drug test. I'm not sure if any airline pays u to take a **** test.
Not true on 20 min. You have to report outside of security, go upstairs in the atrium, sign in and take a seat, get called to the back to perform the test then you are released. Now it takes about an hour from the time you get notified at the gate till you get back to catch the bus or a/c home. This will more than likely happen at the end of a 4 day and might even cause you to miss your last flight home. And no you will not get paid. Although you should...
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
It's only happened to me 2x in 6 years. So 40 wasted minutes isn't really anything I've even thought about before, for pay. I'm usually more irritated at the 3 hour airport breaks between turns that happens all too often...
I agree completely. I was just sayin... . Recently we've had what seems like a lot longer sits / duty days as we've merged the continental and united flying. Every so often a break is nice, but it gets old and most of us would rather fly as much as possible and be done, obviously.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by XSive
Delta buy a pilot group ? Wow, I've heard it all! Lol..guys get this through your wishful thinking hard heads: THERE WILL NEVER BE A PILOT SHORTAGE AT THE LEGACY AIRLINES. The regional currently have plenty of supply for several decades. The regionals are worried about staffing and you think THEY are going to sell a pilot group? Come on guys think about it!
Captain? Been at the regionals longer than you ever imagined? Just because you're bitter doesn't mean you should close your eyes and mind. You're fooling yourself but that's fine, stay that way and be sure not to submit any apps the the legacy carriers. That'll be one less person I have to compete with. (If you are at a legacy carrier already, become another statistic and just retire already. Doesn't sound like you're someone I'd like to fly with)
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:40 AM
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Pilots arguing about the financial decisions of upper management is like the execs arguing over whose pilot have smoother landings -- pilots don't buy airlines and we pretty much have no control over the fate of our employer. Our career is a deadhead and all we can do is hope the guys up front end up taking us where we want to go relatively unscathed.
It's too bad the CRJ guys don't get that!
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:44 AM
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It's too bad the CRJ guys don't get that!
Yeah, totally accurate to lump all CRJ pilots together like that.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:48 AM
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Goaround, I enjoy your comments greatly. There is such a calming tone to your posts. We should get together, have a beer and maybe talk religion and politics .
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
Not true on 20 min. You have to report outside of security, go upstairs in the atrium, sign in and take a seat, get called to the back to perform the test then you are released. Now it takes about an hour from the time you get notified at the gate till you get back to catch the bus or a/c home. This will more than likely happen at the end of a 4 day and might even cause you to miss your last flight home. And no you will not get paid. Although you should...
For us we have a guy that follows you from the plane to a room right by our crew lounge, it takes 20 min and it's only you there, then you leave and get on the bus to the lot. I guess they do it a bit differently in Atlanta. I agree with you though if it's taking hours to do this, then that blows.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:05 PM
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The SLI will follow ALPA's guidelines. After the jcba each side will try and reach a mutually agreed on solution. I believe that process is either 30 or 90 days. If no agreement is reached, which is highly likely, it goes to arbitration. There's no need to argue who bought who, who saved who, who's better looking, or whose call sign was worse, the arbitrator will take this all into account when deciding, and hopefully 80 percent of us will hate it, and we can move forward and be one harmonious group.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:12 PM
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I love p1ss1ng matches. Hey did you know mines bigger than yours?
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
For us we have a guy that follows you from the plane to a room right by our crew lounge, it takes 20 min and it's only you there, then you leave and get on the bus to the lot. I guess they do it a bit differently in Atlanta. I agree with you though if it's taking hours to do this, then that blows.
Ours used to be like that - now it's a minimum 40 minute proposition.

We don't get paid, but at least call scheduling, claim the per-diem and extended duty day. If you were getting duty rig for the day already, then the extended duty day for the **** test should get you paid more. Also, don't forget you have the option to request an off-site facility....
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