spudskier

Wow, dat prelim... there goes DTW

Captain Tony

That wasn't very nice.

spudskier

Taking it personally? Let's deflate that ego just a bit. There's more than one reason on that prelim I say that.

There's nothing good about any of these position notices, most people in both seats are losing seniority and as usual, the top 40% is a revolving door. Pilots from ATL bid DTW in search of a better line (or getting off reserve) without any research only to realize how much the commute from ATL-DTW sucks and then bid back to ATL 6 months later. Those of us who are a bit more permanent are sick of it. Yeah, I know, that's how seniority works. It's their prerogative.

While I'm on a rant, F%@ those ultra-senior FOs (0-900 on the master seniority list) who all of a sudden decide they want to play captain after 12-20 years. Should be a statute of limitations on the upgrade.

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P.S. F&@$ this place (ASA)

Redundant Guy

My proposal is that if vacancies and displacements happen simultaneously. Hence if there an displacements, those FO's that just rode it out, can not upgrade and bump someone else who made the jump, sat reserve, gone to a base other than their ideal choice, etc. Those folks didn't need the extra paycheck then, they can do without it now instead of forcing a new Captain back into a lower paid position. Another good substitute would be that displacements keep their CA pay 12 months....

I know seniority rules but at what price? Being able to kick others because you can? I disagree completely.

spudskier

Captain Tony

"Bitter... party of one".

spudskier

No sir, I have a party of several hundred.

7+ years as an FO (and there are a lot of us) and nothing to show for it. Not worth jumping ship now to chase TPIC as that won't matter soon. If I had less than 4 years in I'd have bailed much earlier this year.

Captain Tony

It took me 6 years here, plus one year at another airline to upgrade. Then 6 years reserve as a Captain, yet too much PIC time to get hired anywhere else. So cry me a river. You can also cry a river for the rest of us bidding DTW to get off permanent ATL reserve.

spudskier

Then don't "complain" about your commute. Your 4-day is now a 6 because of the report/release times? Your choice. I would be the plug to live in my base.

At least you're making some decent coin, I'm topped out and getting paid peanuts to be a diplomat to whatever captain I'm flying with each week. We have a lot of great people in DTW, don't get me wrong. I just don't get paid enough for this garbage.

Captain Tony

I'll be senior enough to commute in the first day and out the last day with commutable trips. You won't hear me complain.

Sorry you hate your job so much. You should really update your resume.