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Old 07-29-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dukeuno
John is that you? You are just a regular line pilot. Stop lying to these guys about seeing the numbers. Just because you have been a Regional Pilot for 20 years doesn't make you a Regional God!
Bewhaaa..haaaa....Me Capt. Tony? That's a good one! You may want to listen to Capt. Tony and that Bozo guy however. I know you LXJT guys think you have it all figured out, but my magic 8 ball says you don't....
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukeuno
John is that you? You are just a regular line pilot. Stop lying to these guys about seeing the numbers. Just because you have been a Regional Pilot for 20 years doesn't make you a Regional God!
Capt Tony is definitely not JB. He is a member of the CNC and knows what he is talking about.m
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:03 PM
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Does anyone know how would a furlough work for the post merger hires? Would a large furlough on one side start grabbing guys or gals on the other? I have reviewed dozens of forum pages but found multiple answers?
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
Does anyone know how would a furlough work for the post merger hires? Would a large furlough on one side start grabbing guys or gals on the other? I have reviewed dozens of forum pages but found multiple answers?

Tough to say. Right after Skywest announced the purchase of L-XJT in Fall 2010, L-XJT still had pilots on furlough, those pilots were offered positions at L-ASA and came to L-ASA keeping their longevity accrued from their time at L-XJT before they were furloughed and did not have to interview with L-ASA, they literally came in and began class on the CRJ, however they were at the bottom of the L-ASA seniority list. These same pilots were also allowed to go back to L-XJT at their original L-XJT seniority if they wanted to, all but a very few have gone back to L-XJT since. In late 2011, early 2012, L-ASA had a furlough scare where our MEC(s) hashed out an agreement that if L-ASA were to furlough, L-ASA pilots would be offered positions at the bottom of the L-XJT seniority list, but would keep their longevity etc when it came to pay and other benefits once on the L-XJT list. Basically it was the same deal L-ASA gave L-XJT back in late 2010 that I outlined above.

To answer your question though: I don't know, I'm sure it would work similar to what you just read, but the problem is is that both sides are shrinking, so a furlough from one side doesn't mean immediate employment on the other and vice versa. If a furlough were to occur I have a feeling that Skywest would offer preferred interviews to said furloughees or an immediate transition to the other side of the company if positions were available.

On a personal note, I have a feeling that any furloughs will likely be avoided as attrition will only pick up beginning this Fall on both sides of the house.
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:41 PM
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If the ERJ side furloughs, only ERJ pilots will be furloughed. And vice versa.
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Old 08-02-2014, 03:29 AM
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I thought that only guys hired on the side since the merger are protected. I could be wrong. Lets say that the ERJ side furloughs. Well guys since the merger are protected and can be offered spots on the CRJ side, if we have spots available. Once those guys are up, then furloughing starts.

As I said, I may be wrong.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
Tough to say. Right after Skywest announced the purchase of L-XJT in Fall 2010, L-XJT still had pilots on furlough, those pilots were offered positions at L-ASA and came to L-ASA keeping their longevity accrued from their time at L-XJT before they were furloughed and did not have to interview with L-ASA, they literally came in and began class on the CRJ, however they were at the bottom of the L-ASA seniority list. These same pilots were also allowed to go back to L-XJT at their original L-XJT seniority if they wanted to, all but a very few have gone back to L-XJT since. In late 2011, early 2012, L-ASA had a furlough scare where our MEC(s) hashed out an agreement that if L-ASA were to furlough, L-ASA pilots would be offered positions at the bottom of the L-XJT seniority list, but would keep their longevity etc when it came to pay and other benefits once on the L-XJT list. Basically it was the same deal L-ASA gave L-XJT back in late 2010 that I outlined above.

To answer your question though: I don't know, I'm sure it would work similar to what you just read, but the problem is is that both sides are shrinking, so a furlough from one side doesn't mean immediate employment on the other and vice versa. If a furlough were to occur I have a feeling that Skywest would offer preferred interviews to said furloughees or an immediate transition to the other side of the company if positions were available.

On a personal note, I have a feeling that any furloughs will likely be avoided as attrition will only pick up beginning this Fall on both sides of the house.
This is incorrect. The LASA MEC asked the LXJT MEC to agree to this but they said no.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I thought that only guys hired on the side since the merger are protected. I could be wrong. Lets say that the ERJ side furloughs. Well guys since the merger are protected and can be offered spots on the CRJ side, if we have spots available. Once those guys are up, then furloughing starts.

As I said, I may be wrong.
The only "protected pilots OR no furlough" are the LASA pilots that were on property as of DOS of, approx 11/2007, of the current CBA.

If one side furloughs there are no "current protections" to go to the other side.
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Old 08-02-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
The only "protected pilots OR no furlough" are the LASA pilots that were on property as of DOS of, approx 11/2007, of the current CBA.

If one side furloughs there are no "current protections" to go to the other side.
Why is there suddenly talk of furlough on this thread?
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Old 08-02-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Why is there suddenly talk of furlough on this thread?
Because the ERJ is slated to park some 94 aircraft by March/April 2015.

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