What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
07-28-2014, 10:01 AM
#6721
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 339
You guys crack me up. All of this hand wringing during contract negotiations.
We will not hear anything positive of substance out of management unless our "legacy partners" decide that we should. Management does not want to give us anything to hope for until they get what they want in the next contract. Our expectations are being managed to a low level with fear. Don't expect anything positive and wait for the next TA. Management will withhold any positive news as long as they can unless they think it will help them in negotiations. All communications from management is carefully crafted to achieve a certain result from us.
Management is managing - our expectations.
We will not hear anything positive of substance out of management unless our "legacy partners" decide that we should. Management does not want to give us anything to hope for until they get what they want in the next contract. Our expectations are being managed to a low level with fear. Don't expect anything positive and wait for the next TA. Management will withhold any positive news as long as they can unless they think it will help them in negotiations. All communications from management is carefully crafted to achieve a certain result from us.
Management is managing - our expectations.
I agree with CaptTony. But you have a point, management might be doing their thing and being as negative as possible...but most of us are in tune with reality, and that reality is the fact that we are getting smaller no matter what, and when an airline shrinks there is no good news to be had. Nobody is being conned here by a management scam...
07-28-2014, 11:16 AM
#6722
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 503
I agree with CaptTony. But you have a point, management might be doing their thing and being as negative as possible...but most of us are in tune with reality, and that reality is the fact that we are getting smaller no matter what, and when an airline shrinks there is no good news to be had. Nobody is being conned here by a management scam...
In less than 5 years from now I would say IF XJT is still around it will have less than half the a/c they have today and half as many pilots also.
07-28-2014, 11:38 AM
#6723
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: DAL 73B
Posts: 31
No net upgrades or downgrades. Minus 9 for IAD CA, but plus 7 in ATL and plus 2 in DFW.
07-28-2014, 12:49 PM
#6724
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 170
The airline is going to shrink either way. This airline with have a very small fleet of 50 seat aircraft going forward and maybe at some point a mid size fleet of 70 + seat aircraft beyond what the CRJ guys have as of today.
In less than 5 years from now I would say IF XJT is still around it will have less than half the a/c they have today and half as many pilots also.
In less than 5 years from now I would say IF XJT is still around it will have less than half the a/c they have today and half as many pilots also.
07-28-2014, 02:30 PM
#6725
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 284
Why are you thinking about jumping aboard this **** show? I mean seven year FO's are bailing to compass. It's super regional wind down time. I can't believe I have wasted 7 years of my life here. I'm sure some of its a management ploy. I mean cancelling upgrade bids is just a slap in the face. Why put them out in the first place? Damn nightmare over here. Run as far away as possible and forget this place ever existed because if in the end it does exist, it will be just a shell of what it was. Good luck to us all. Management seems hell bent on not trying to compete with other airlines. Oh well
07-28-2014, 04:57 PM
#6726
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 339
Who knows, both sides are a complete and total train wreck with nowhere to go but to get significantly smaller. If you're thinking about coming here I would highly recommend considering another regional. I hate to type that, but unfortunately I'd be giving you bad advice in telling you to apply here.
07-28-2014, 07:58 PM
#6727
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 456
John is that you? You are just a regular line pilot. Stop lying to these guys about seeing the numbers. Just because you have been a Regional Pilot for 20 years doesn't make you a Regional God!
07-29-2014, 04:15 AM
#6728
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 503
I'm sorry to say that you have the wrong person. The CPT Tony is not JB. Open mouth and insert foot!
07-29-2014, 05:04 AM
#6730
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: CRJ CA
Posts: 328
What a dumb post. Assume much? Capt. Tony is not JB, but is a member of the CNC, and assuredly HAS seen the confidential books - and I agree with his assessment that he IS NOT a likely company kool aid drinker. If he says it, I believe him.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
