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Old 06-17-2014, 09:19 PM
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People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.
If you're afraid of change, you really won't like this week.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:05 PM
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If you're afraid of change, you really won't like this week.
They can bring it... I got my 2 weeks notice in hand if needed. Tired of having to fight for every paycheck. I have NEVER had a company I had to audit every paycheck because I felt cheated.. and I am..
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:18 AM
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Well, you are making broad assumptions. I think those of us who are against it, are because we are comfortable with the devil we know. Also, many of us have long lost any confidence in the MEC negotiating something that maintains the same compensation and QOL we currently benefit from line bidding, or the company just doing the right thing once it's turned on.

People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.
You've said you have lost confidence in your MEC. Yet you have another pilot group showing you how well their system works but you trust you MEC to develop a PBS system that no one else uses. I guess I'm missing something then.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:34 AM
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I just held my first hard line on the LXJT side. 12 days off working weekends. After ILIW I now have every weekend off along with 19 days off. Will I be able to do that in PBS as the most junior line holder in the system?
Yeah, that's crap. You've been smoking some weed on a DEN overnight. There's no one here at your seniority level that's able to make that kinda change in the ILIW. I'm guessing you're forgetting to tell us that u had vacation as well.

Switching gears, the XJT CEO, Brad Jolt, has said, "pilots aren't as smart as they think they are" and that "we should find a different job." I'm guessing that since he lives in ATL he's been having lunch and playing a lot of golf with the Delta execs. We all know how much they love their Regional "partners!"
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartender
If you're afraid of change, you really won't like this week.
I think 83% wont really give a crap... bring on Plan B!
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:59 AM
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Yeah, that's crap. You've been smoking some weed on a DEN overnight. There's no one here at your seniority level that's able to make that kinda change in the ILIW. I'm guessing you're forgetting to tell us that u had vacation as well.

Switching gears, the XJT CEO, Brad Jolt, has said, "pilots aren't as smart as they think they are" and that "we should find a different job." I'm guessing that since he lives in ATL he's been having lunch and playing a lot of golf with the Delta execs. We all know how much they love their Regional "partners!"
No thats not true.. the first time I held a hard line I did the same thing.. It wasnt 19 days off as I wanted to at least keep guarantee. 17 or 18 I think and NO vacation.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bravo3
Yeah, that's crap. You've been smoking some weed on a DEN overnight. There's no one here at your seniority level that's able to make that kinda change in the ILIW. I'm guessing you're forgetting to tell us that u had vacation as well.

Switching gears, the XJT CEO, Brad Jolt, has said, "pilots aren't as smart as they think they are" and that "we should find a different job." I'm guessing that since he lives in ATL he's been having lunch and playing a lot of golf with the Delta execs. We all know how much they love their Regional "partners!"
Smoking weed? I don't have vacation. Your seniority doesn't matter during Iliw. My line value is close to 60 hrs.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Well, you are making broad assumptions. I think those of us who are against it, are because we are comfortable with the devil we know. Also, many of us have long lost any confidence in the MEC negotiating something that maintains the same compensation and QOL we currently benefit from line bidding, or the company just doing the right thing once it's turned on.

People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.
I'm making no assumptions...simply restating what he answered.. I do appreciate your answer however. Those are reasonable concerns on your part.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartender
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Originally Posted by Nevets



People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.




If you're afraid of change, you really won't like this week.
I said people. I'm not automatically against PBS.

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Originally Posted by Nevets


Well, you are making broad assumptions. I think those of us who are against it, are because we are comfortable with the devil we know. Also, many of us have long lost any confidence in the MEC negotiating something that maintains the same compensation and QOL we currently benefit from line bidding, or the company just doing the right thing once it's turned on.

People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.




You've said you have lost confidence in your MEC. Yet you have another pilot group showing you how well their system works but you trust you MEC to develop a PBS system that no one else uses. I guess I'm missing something then.
I was speaking as a pilot group. My feelings don't necessarily agree with everything my pilot group, as a whole, feels.

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Originally Posted by flyguy94


I just held my first hard line on the LXJT side. 12 days off working weekends. After ILIW I now have every weekend off along with 19 days off. Will I be able to do that in PBS as the most junior line holder in the system?




Yeah, that's crap. You've been smoking some weed on a DEN overnight. There's no one here at your seniority level that's able to make that kinda change in the ILIW. I'm guessing you're forgetting to tell us that u had vacation as well.

Switching gears, the XJT CEO, Brad Jolt, has said, "pilots aren't as smart as they think they are" and that "we should find a different job." I'm guessing that since he lives in ATL he's been having lunch and playing a lot of golf with the Delta execs. We all know how much they love their Regional "partners!"
The pilots at the smaller bases like CLE, MCI, and DEN, can do this. Like I said previously, they have to set the pool at +4 regardless of staffing or the size of the base. That's makes a huge difference in the smaller bases. Of course, more than likely, if you go to 19 days off, you will take a hit on guarantee, as the poster said he did.

Switching gears, BH is the XJT COO. Our CEO is JA.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets


Well, you are making broad assumptions. I think those of us who are against it, are because we are comfortable with the devil we know. Also, many of us have long lost any confidence in the MEC negotiating something that maintains the same compensation and QOL we currently benefit from line bidding, or the company just doing the right thing once it's turned on.

People are just afraid of change. Sometimes, rightfully so.




I'm making no assumptions...simply restating what he answered.. I do appreciate your answer however. Those are reasonable concerns on your part.
Your assumption is that people have issues with their awarded line. No one is required to improve their line if they don't want to. I'm sure there are people not happy with what their seniority got them. And just because you are ok with the line your seniority did get you, nothing wrong to see if you can improve on it even more. That's the assumption.
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