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Old 06-11-2014, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
The email last night said "no upgrades". Why in hell would anyone go here with no expatiation of PIC? If your junior, I would quit and go to the first place that could offer me a quick upgrade. Its about PIC guys! You don't have it, your not going anywhere!
You sound like a babbling moron who never had an English class after 4th grade. Maybe you can't go anywhere because you can't put together a coherent resume or cover letter.

You're right to ask why anyone would come here right now as a new hire, but you're wrong about people leaving. PIC time is obviously important, but I know FOs from here that have gone basically everywhere. JB, Spirit, United, Delta... and I also know guys taking a gamble and bailing for places like Mesa. Thousands upon thousands of regional guys are qualified for a very small amount of mainline jobs right now.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:15 PM
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Ok, I'm not in the regionals right now and I don't know how it all works exactly, all I can go by is what I read on these forums and from what friends in the regionals have told me. In the last month I have applied and interviewed and given a class date at Skywest, express jet, envoy, Mesa, psa, air Wisconsin, and republic. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. From what I have seen, read and heard I like express jet the most out of all of them so far. Yes I am worried about the upgrade time but that's a risk I'm willing to take. As for PIC time, if I'm going to be given a PIC type rating and if the CA and FO switch roles each leg wouldn't the FO also be able to log PIC then?
FYI, I have been moving up the list nicely in the past few months. I'm on the ASA side. I'm not sure how many 200s we are losing vs 145s, but attrition should increase even more in the next year. Baring any unforeseen factors, you should move up fairly "quickly". That being said, I'd still strongly consider other carriers do to the uncertain future here at XJT for the sake of job security.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:37 PM
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FYI, I have been moving up the list nicely in the past few months. I'm on the ASA side. I'm not sure how many 200s we are losing vs 145s, but attrition should increase even more in the next year. Baring any unforeseen factors, you should move up fairly "quickly". That being said, I'd still strongly consider other carriers do to the uncertain future here at XJT for the sake of job security.
Thanks for the info. I got placed in the June 23rd crj class. I interviewed first week of May and was put into a hiring pool for about a week, I called and asked what that was about and they said they just decided to stop all Erj training and hiring was dropped from 90 a month to 10 a month. I was ok with that. From what I've been hearing from everyone is that all the majors are really picking up training especially towards the end of this year. I was considering chasing a faster upgrade time job but again all my friends have been saying I have probably missed it. I know express jets future is very questionable, but the regionals seems to be a gambling game. I really think either Skywest will either merge with XJT or XJT will start getting new aircraft. I don't see them getting "commaired" or just phased out if you want to call it that. It seems they are just too big for that. So it's the question of if I want to gamble that something is going to happen at XJT where they get their **** together and upgrade time will start to drop or not. I think they will.

Does anyone know what kind of upgrade time there is at XJT right now. I heard anywhere from 6 to 8 years. And reserve time for each base on the Crj side? The only base I wouldn't want to get is Detroit given I live in the FLL/MIA area and will be commuting until I get things figured out.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
I really think either Skywest will either merge with XJT or XJT will start getting new aircraft. I don't see them getting "commaired" or just phased out if you want to call it that. It seems they are just too big for that.

You sir are delusional.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:50 PM
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You sir are delusional.
Wishful thinking
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
Ok, I'm not in the regionals right now and I don't know how it all works exactly, all I can go by is what I read on these forums and from what friends in the regionals have told me. In the last month I have applied and interviewed and given a class date at Skywest, express jet, envoy, Mesa, psa, air Wisconsin, and republic. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. From what I have seen, read and heard I like express jet the most out of all of them so far. Yes I am worried about the upgrade time but that's a risk I'm willing to take. As for PIC time, if I'm going to be given a PIC type rating and if the CA and FO switch roles each leg wouldn't the FO also be able to log PIC then?
FYI, I have been moving up the list nicely in the past few months. I'm on the ASA side. I'm not sure how many 200s we are losing vs 145s, but attrition should increase even more in the next year. Baring any unforeseen factors, you should move up fairly "quickly". That being said, I'd still strongly consider other carriers do to the uncertain future here at XJT for the sake of job security.
It is about time we have seen some movement! Took long enough.....haha
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:38 PM
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When do negotiations start again?
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
The email last night said "no upgrades". Why in hell would anyone go here with no expatiation of PIC? If your junior, I would quit and go to the first place that could offer me a quick upgrade. Its about PIC guys! You don't have it, your not going anywhere!
Exactly! I am not going to sit around hoping to be picked up by a major with no turbine PIC. I'm young and have no commitments to anyone or anywhere yet. Why would it makes sense to sit around here?
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
Ok, I'm not in the regionals right now and I don't know how it all works exactly, all I can go by is what I read on these forums and from what friends in the regionals have told me. In the last month I have applied and interviewed and given a class date at Skywest, express jet, envoy, Mesa, psa, air Wisconsin, and republic. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. From what I have seen, read and heard I like express jet the most out of all of them so far. Yes I am worried about the upgrade time but that's a risk I'm willing to take. As for PIC time, if I'm going to be given a PIC type rating and if the CA and FO switch roles each leg wouldn't the FO also be able to log PIC then?
You interviewed at SEVEN regionals? Dude, you must love interviewing. I enjoyed my SKW interview, but I have no desire to go do it 6 more times....
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
Ok, I'm not in the regionals right now and I don't know how it all works exactly, all I can go by is what I read on these forums and from what friends in the regionals have told me. In the last month I have applied and interviewed and given a class date at Skywest, express jet, envoy, Mesa, psa, air Wisconsin, and republic. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. From what I have seen, read and heard I like express jet the most out of all of them so far. Yes I am worried about the upgrade time but that's a risk I'm willing to take. As for PIC time, if I'm going to be given a PIC type rating and if the CA and FO switch roles each leg wouldn't the FO also be able to log PIC then?
No. In the Part 121 world, the only PIC is the one on the release. If you were flying part 91, you could do the 'sole manipulator of the flight controls' thing, but you aren't. Although you have a PIC type rating, you are not a qualified Captain, which requires a separate training event.
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