What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
06-09-2014, 10:19 PM
#6311
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
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Isn't express jet part of the Atlantic Southeast Holdings or something of that sort...ultimately which is also part of the Skywest, Inc. umbrella. So they can dissolve the other holding company and its components in order to stay "profitable".
By the way, Nevets, I sincerely hope that you are not one to break any moral or ethical standards because you sure seem to act like you never have or never will. If indeed that is the case, you are a better person than most of us. If you haven't learned yet that corporate America does not care about the employees, you have been living a sheltered life thus far. It doesn't make it right but that's the way it is run so getting on here and constantly repeating the same rhetoric about morality is not going to change a damn thing.
Don't mistake what I said above to say that I'm willing to accept concessions and some of you on the L-XJT need to understand that the 83% didn't just comprise of the L-XJT group. Carry On...
By the way, Nevets, I sincerely hope that you are not one to break any moral or ethical standards because you sure seem to act like you never have or never will. If indeed that is the case, you are a better person than most of us. If you haven't learned yet that corporate America does not care about the employees, you have been living a sheltered life thus far. It doesn't make it right but that's the way it is run so getting on here and constantly repeating the same rhetoric about morality is not going to change a damn thing.
Don't mistake what I said above to say that I'm willing to accept concessions and some of you on the L-XJT need to understand that the 83% didn't just comprise of the L-XJT group. Carry On...
This is not about me. Just because we are imperfect, does NOT mean we are not allowed to point out bad behavior! And I don't understand why anyone would use that as an excuse to let our CEO off on his immoral whipsaw business model. Especially from someone who is subject to such bad behavior.
I've never said it was illegal. But that doesn't mean that it's right or moral. And if only perfectly moral people could ever make a stand to immoral behavior, we would still live in a country that wouldn't let woman vote. It's just plain ridiculous to even say that. Even more coming from a Skywest Inc pilot!
06-10-2014, 01:10 PM
#6312
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,071
They don't have to combine operations into one set of facilities for dispatch and scheduling. In fact, they don't need to have one air carrier certificate. They would just need to consolidate management, HR, support staff, etc. Although in the long run, they would save more money by combining everything. The same reasons they touted to the investors the savings of $70M/yr by merging ASA and XJT, apply to Skywest Airlines as well. I don't think it's so much combining non-union/union work groups as it is just maintaining their whipsaw business model. Even all the employee groups at Skywest Airlines were union, they would still want to keep us separate in order to perpetuate that whipsaw business model.
06-10-2014, 01:50 PM
#6314
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevets
They don't have to combine operations into one set of facilities for dispatch and scheduling. In fact, they don't need to have one air carrier certificate. They would just need to consolidate management, HR, support staff, etc. Although in the long run, they would save more money by combining everything. The same reasons they touted to the investors the savings of $70M/yr by merging ASA and XJT, apply to Skywest Airlines as well. I don't think it's so much combining non-union/union work groups as it is just maintaining their whipsaw business model. Even all the employee groups at Skywest Airlines were union, they would still want to keep us separate in order to perpetuate that whipsaw business model.
True, or they're just save more $$$ by letting the hemorrhaging company bleed out. Which is what seems to be happening.
Originally Posted by Nevets
They don't have to combine operations into one set of facilities for dispatch and scheduling. In fact, they don't need to have one air carrier certificate. They would just need to consolidate management, HR, support staff, etc. Although in the long run, they would save more money by combining everything. The same reasons they touted to the investors the savings of $70M/yr by merging ASA and XJT, apply to Skywest Airlines as well. I don't think it's so much combining non-union/union work groups as it is just maintaining their whipsaw business model. Even all the employee groups at Skywest Airlines were union, they would still want to keep us separate in order to perpetuate that whipsaw business model.
True, or they're just save more $$$ by letting the hemorrhaging company bleed out. Which is what seems to be happening.
06-11-2014, 07:22 AM
#6317
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Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 22
Hmmmm - I had an ERJ class date for September. I got a call canceling that yesterday. ****? Anybody know why they have canceled ERJ classes.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
06-11-2014, 07:36 AM
#6318
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 268
Hmmmm - I had an ERJ class date for September. I got a call canceling that yesterday. ****? Anybody know why they have canceled ERJ classes.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
06-11-2014, 07:52 AM
#6319
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Posts: 28
Hmmmm - I had an ERJ class date for September. I got a call canceling that yesterday. ****? Anybody know why they have canceled ERJ classes.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
I did just switch over to a CRJ class. Am I a dumbass for going to XJT now? I do have class dates with a few other regionals as back-up plans.
You will be fine. Be glad you switched.
06-11-2014, 07:55 AM
#6320
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 484
That depends on what you choose to believe... XJT has over 100 aircraft scheduled to come off contract through March of 2015, and unless United corrects the rates to profitable flying Inc will allow them to be parked. United owns the ERJs so no telling what they would do with them....
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