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#6301
Understand. That's like me not wanting to pay my credit cards, but pay everything else, and then claim I'm bankrupt only to my credit card portion of my debt and have everything else remain untouched. It doesn't make sense, nor seems eithical to allow a buisness to get away with things like that. God knows an individual couldn't But hey, if thats the law, then so be it. Love America!
#6303
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
There's nothing to negoitiate. The company was planning on pulling the plug anyway. You guys just can't get over it! Mesa and Skywest have the orders. Training in progress. It's over. Done. Get on with your lives.
XJT parked a new Embraer in Atlanta for a reason. And you guys fell for it.
XJT parked a new Embraer in Atlanta for a reason. And you guys fell for it.
#6304
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
SkyWest Airlines is a subsidiary of SkyWest Inc. just like we are. In the Mesaba bankruptcy, MAIR bankrupted Mesaba, but left the holding company and Big Sky airlines solvent (Big Sky was later liquidated). SKYW, INC could do the same, bankrupting ExpressJet and leaving SKYW and SkyWest Airlines solvent.
Understand. That's like me not wanting to pay my credit cards, but pay everything else, and then claim I'm bankrupt only to my credit card portion of my debt and have everything else remain untouched. It doesn't make sense, nor seems eithical to allow a buisness to get away with things like that. God knows an individual couldn't But hey, if thats the law, then so be it. Love America!
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
SkyWest Airlines is a subsidiary of SkyWest Inc. just like we are. In the Mesaba bankruptcy, MAIR bankrupted Mesaba, but left the holding company and Big Sky airlines solvent (Big Sky was later liquidated). SKYW, INC could do the same, bankrupting ExpressJet and leaving SKYW and SkyWest Airlines solvent.
Understand. That's like me not wanting to pay my credit cards, but pay everything else, and then claim I'm bankrupt only to my credit card portion of my debt and have everything else remain untouched. It doesn't make sense, nor seems eithical to allow a buisness to get away with things like that. God knows an individual couldn't But hey, if thats the law, then so be it. Love America!
#6305
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 322
Understand. That's like me not wanting to pay my credit cards, but pay everything else, and then claim I'm bankrupt only to my credit card portion of my debt and have everything else remain untouched. It doesn't make sense, nor seems eithical to allow a buisness to get away with things like that. God knows an individual couldn't But hey, if thats the law, then so be it. Love America!
Same with PepsiCo. They might loose money on Pizza Hut but Make money on Pepsi soda. Being corporate America they can cut their losses on the one product and leave the other intact.
#6306
It's more like Disneyland. They might not make money at Disneyland but do make money at disneyworld. They are a corporation and can cut the losses at one without affecting or closing the other.
Same with PepsiCo. They might loose money on Pizza Hut but Make money on Pepsi soda. Being corporate America they can cut their losses on the one product and leave the other intact.
Same with PepsiCo. They might loose money on Pizza Hut but Make money on Pepsi soda. Being corporate America they can cut their losses on the one product and leave the other intact.
If Disneyland is a money loser, they just shut it down. If they opt for bankruptcy, does that affect the credit rating of Skywest? What creditors are going to come after them. They do have a contract to provide lift for UAL, so BK could be the only way out of that, but that might severely affect their ability to borrow in the future. A wind-down allows them an orderly transfer of lift elsewhere. Now, it may be worthwhile to shrink XJT, THEN bankrupt it, as it will be near non-entity by that time.
#6307
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 56
Why does INC waste money on 2 set's of management teams, 2 set's of office staff, 2 sets of office leases, etc? Why not combine Skywest Airlines with ExpressJet Airlines and save money with synergies? If the company is not looking to save money ANYWAY it can than why should I subsidize them with a concessionary TA?
#6308
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 611
Why does INC waste money on 2 set's of management teams, 2 set's of office staff, 2 sets of office leases, etc? Why not combine Skywest Airlines with ExpressJet Airlines and save money with synergies? If the company is not looking to save money ANYWAY it can than why should I subsidize them with a concessionary TA?
#6309
Isn't express jet part of the Atlantic Southeast Holdings or something of that sort...ultimately which is also part of the Skywest, Inc. umbrella. So they can dissolve the other holding company and its components in order to stay "profitable".
By the way, Nevets, I sincerely hope that you are not one to break any moral or ethical standards because you sure seem to act like you never have or never will. If indeed that is the case, you are a better person than most of us. If you haven't learned yet that corporate America does not care about the employees, you have been living a sheltered life thus far. It doesn't make it right but that's the way it is run so getting on here and constantly repeating the same rhetoric about morality is not going to change a damn thing.
Don't mistake what I said above to say that I'm willing to accept concessions and some of you on the L-XJT need to understand that the 83% didn't just comprise of the L-XJT group. Carry On...
By the way, Nevets, I sincerely hope that you are not one to break any moral or ethical standards because you sure seem to act like you never have or never will. If indeed that is the case, you are a better person than most of us. If you haven't learned yet that corporate America does not care about the employees, you have been living a sheltered life thus far. It doesn't make it right but that's the way it is run so getting on here and constantly repeating the same rhetoric about morality is not going to change a damn thing.
Don't mistake what I said above to say that I'm willing to accept concessions and some of you on the L-XJT need to understand that the 83% didn't just comprise of the L-XJT group. Carry On...
#6310
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by xjtpilot
Why does INC waste money on 2 set's of management teams, 2 set's of office staff, 2 sets of office leases, etc? Why not combine Skywest Airlines with ExpressJet Airlines and save money with synergies? If the company is not looking to save money ANYWAY it can than why should I subsidize them with a concessionary TA?
Lots of factors, the least of which are the financial burden of SkyWest to build and then maintain the facilities required to house such an operation in one location, and that's before you start mixing union and nonunion work groups.
Originally Posted by xjtpilot
Why does INC waste money on 2 set's of management teams, 2 set's of office staff, 2 sets of office leases, etc? Why not combine Skywest Airlines with ExpressJet Airlines and save money with synergies? If the company is not looking to save money ANYWAY it can than why should I subsidize them with a concessionary TA?
Lots of factors, the least of which are the financial burden of SkyWest to build and then maintain the facilities required to house such an operation in one location, and that's before you start mixing union and nonunion work groups.
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