What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#6051
After four years of company memos stating they need to lower their cost and reign in spending that is what I assume, maybe I am wrong. My MEC has not said anything other than negotiations were delayed due to the company lawyers having a conflict and they will meet in June. I don't really listen to my MEC anymore because they have already tried to sell me a POS TA so they, nor the ASA MEC and JNC, has any equity with me. If the company is telling you no concessions for either side that is good but they said the same thing to us four years ago and then later asked for cuts. We know we are going down to about 150 aircraft in the next 18 months, no surprise there and it does not scare us. We have 60 pilots in ORD and DEN alone that are in the UAL pool and should be getting class dates soon. Unlike ASA our top 500 seniority spots are not lifers so our attrition should be fine and give us all time to get out of here. I am glad to hear pay cuts are off the table because I like my 5% match and 4% DC plan, hopefully you can negotiate that into your new contract as well.
#6052
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How are the negotiations going then? I am excited that I won't be giving up anything in this new TA and that ASA pilots will be brought up to XJT pay levels, that is good for the industry. Thanks for all you do.
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What was that 70 seat rate you have? Oh yeah $2 override of your current 50 seat rate. That would bring the LASA down to you. Did you pass math in grade school?
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Well they just found 40 pilots... (Closing PDX EMB base). But the UA press release about the 175 routes says they will retire 50 seaters as the 175's come on line.... And OO just added 6 200's this month... Mostly for our at risk stuff i guess... Yes i can also say i saw the "operated by Expressjet" planes at the hanger. End game 200's will go away. They have them on short term leases i bet... Wish i ha a 5 year crystal ball!!! I could see a merger of ASA/SKY.. Maybe in 4-5 years. Republic is doing it. And i think the savings will win out at SkyWest also...
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Originally Posted by cybourg10
How are the negotiations going then? I am excited that I won't be giving up anything in this new TA and that ASA pilots will be brought up to XJT pay levels, that is good for the industry. Thanks for all you do.
What was that 70 seat rate you have? Oh yeah $2 override of your current 50 seat rate. That would bring the LASA down to you. Did you pass math in grade school?
Originally Posted by cybourg10
How are the negotiations going then? I am excited that I won't be giving up anything in this new TA and that ASA pilots will be brought up to XJT pay levels, that is good for the industry. Thanks for all you do.
What was that 70 seat rate you have? Oh yeah $2 override of your current 50 seat rate. That would bring the LASA down to you. Did you pass math in grade school?
#6056
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Well they just found 40 pilots... (Closing PDX EMB base). But the UA press release about the 175 routes says they will retire 50 seaters as the 175's come on line.... And OO just added 6 200's this month... Mostly for our at risk stuff i guess... Yes i can also say i saw the "operated by Expressjet" planes at the hanger. End game 200's will go away. They have them on short term leases i bet... Wish i ha a 5 year crystal ball!!! I could see a merger of ASA/SKY.. Maybe in 4-5 years. Republic is doing it. And i think the savings will win out at SkyWest also...
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Guess the kicker is xjt's EMB145's cant pull a "release" scheme like the CRJ's can...
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Yes, I knew about PDX but couldn't say anything. Of course United said 50-seaters were going away...XJT's 135s. Until you see a press release specifically saying United is offering a deal to draw down SkyWest's 200s it's not in the plan. If you ever do, you can bet most of them will already have a back-up plan in place.
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Well they just found 40 pilots... (Closing PDX EMB base). But the UA press release about the 175 routes says they will retire 50 seaters as the 175's come on line.... And OO just added 6 200's this month... Mostly for our at risk stuff i guess... Yes i can also say i saw the "operated by Expressjet" planes at the hanger. End game 200's will go away. They have them on short term leases i bet... Wish i ha a 5 year crystal ball!!! I could see a merger of ASA/SKY.. Maybe in 4-5 years. Republic is doing it. And i think the savings will win out at SkyWest also...
It sounds as if NVUS doesn't believe merging saves any significant costs.
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Yes, I knew about PDX but couldn't say anything. Of course United said 50-seaters were going away...XJT's 135s. Until you see a press release specifically saying United is offering a deal to draw down SkyWest's 200s it's not in the plan. If you ever do, you can bet most of them will already have a back-up plan in place.
Not only 135's but their 145's as well... Through March of next year over 100 aircraft are supposed to come off contract. With United losing in excess of 600 million dollars, they certainly aren't going to be throwing more money at ExpressJet and increase the rates to keep them all flying.
Originally Posted by NVUS
Yes, I knew about PDX but couldn't say anything. Of course United said 50-seaters were going away...XJT's 135s. Until you see a press release specifically saying United is offering a deal to draw down SkyWest's 200s it's not in the plan. If you ever do, you can bet most of them will already have a back-up plan in place.
Not only 135's but their 145's as well... Through March of next year over 100 aircraft are supposed to come off contract. With United losing in excess of 600 million dollars, they certainly aren't going to be throwing more money at ExpressJet and increase the rates to keep them all flying.
Best case scenario I see is that they do pay a fair rate for the XRs. Anything else, I would be surprised.
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Are they just closing the base or are they parking those particular EMBs?
It sounds as if NVUS doesn't believe merging saves any significant costs.
Those are not all LXJT aircraft.
Best case scenario I see is that they do pay a fair rate for the XRs. Anything else, I would be surprised.
It sounds as if NVUS doesn't believe merging saves any significant costs.
Those are not all LXJT aircraft.
Best case scenario I see is that they do pay a fair rate for the XRs. Anything else, I would be surprised.
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