What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#5921
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
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lol right. It's just the blame game. They fail to realize just how dire their financial position was when Inc purchased them in 2010, November 12th to be exact. The 7-year CPA that was signed was done in 2008, when SkyWest originally attempted to buy out ExpressJet, but failed due to the new CPA being signed with Continental at the time. They ended their independent ExpressJet operations and furloughed 347 pilots in 2008, I guess this is SkyWest's fault too. Fact of the matter is, ExpressJet had been on the decline financially ever since they were spun off from Continental in 2002. In 2005 Continental was set to reduce the fleet by 69 aircraft and that's when they got the bright idea to operate them independently. That was the beginning of the end.
#5922
Fair and equitable integration? How about you ask the ALPA represented AirTran pilot group about fair and equitable.
#5923
lol right. It's just the blame game. They fail to realize just how dire their financial position was when Inc purchased them in 2010, November 12th to be exact. The 7-year CPA that was signed was done in 2008, when SkyWest originally attempted to buy out ExpressJet, but failed due to the new CPA being signed with Continental at the time. They ended their independent ExpressJet operations and furloughed 347 pilots in 2008, I guess this is SkyWest's fault too. Fact of the matter is, ExpressJet had been on the decline financially ever since they were spun off from Continental in 2002. In 2005 Continental was set to reduce the fleet by 69 aircraft and that's when they got the bright idea to operate them independently. That was the beginning of the end.
#5924
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevets
Next, even if ASA wasn't ALPA, federal law requires a fair and equitable integration.
The ONLY thing you got correct is that they XJT MEC rolled over on enforcing our holding letter.
You seriously need to learn how to multi-quote. It is sad that you have as many posts as you do and you are too ignorant to figure out how to quote people properly.
Fair and equitable integration? How about you ask the ALPA represented AirTran pilot group about fair and equitable.
Originally Posted by Nevets
Next, even if ASA wasn't ALPA, federal law requires a fair and equitable integration.
The ONLY thing you got correct is that they XJT MEC rolled over on enforcing our holding letter.
You seriously need to learn how to multi-quote. It is sad that you have as many posts as you do and you are too ignorant to figure out how to quote people properly.
Fair and equitable integration? How about you ask the ALPA represented AirTran pilot group about fair and equitable.
Anyway, I'm on my phone and this app doesn't seem to be user friendly when it comes to quoting. But if you have such a big problem with it, oh well.
#5925
As previously posted.
XJT is the airline that could not:
book a hotel or deadhead correctly for three months
cannot pay employees correctly without involving multiple people and departments
keep track of deadheads
That is:
losing newhires at an unprecedented rate
paying 200% instead of actually planning for staffing
XJT is the airline that could not:
book a hotel or deadhead correctly for three months
cannot pay employees correctly without involving multiple people and departments
keep track of deadheads
That is:
losing newhires at an unprecedented rate
paying 200% instead of actually planning for staffing
Last edited by bedrock; 05-07-2014 at 03:08 PM.
#5926
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
that is still a skw inc problem. They management work for skw inc.
#5927
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 484
It's not SKW management it's ExpressJet management. Yes they are employed by Inc but it's two separate entities. They know it's not working now they need to fix it. Regardless of who is to blame. Facts remain that the ExpressJet side loses money. Now they must stop that. Are they going to give in to the demands of a pilot group that's in denial or are they going to find a way to just wind the whole thing down?? Nobody has those answers but whatever it's gonna be is going to have to happen sooner rather than later.
#5928
Yes, I know. I am blaming the top dogs on this all the way. OO also colluded with Continental by using a buy offer of XJT, financed by Continental in order to get a look at the books and use it to underbid XJT. This forced the XJT to bid even lower to retain the Continetal contract and THIS is what caused XJT's rapid decline...courtesy Kellner and Atkin.
Yet, OO knowing all this, still bought XJT in the end. Hmm.
#5929
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Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddies8
that is still a skw inc problem. They management work for skw inc.
It's not SKW management it's ExpressJet management. Yes they are employed by Inc but it's two separate entities. They know it's not working now they need to fix it. Regardless of who is to blame. Facts remain that the ExpressJet side loses money. Now they must stop that. Are they going to give in to the demands of a pilot group that's in denial or are they going to find a way to just wind the whole thing down?? Nobody has those answers but whatever it's gonna be is going to have to happen sooner rather than later.
Originally Posted by buddies8
that is still a skw inc problem. They management work for skw inc.
It's not SKW management it's ExpressJet management. Yes they are employed by Inc but it's two separate entities. They know it's not working now they need to fix it. Regardless of who is to blame. Facts remain that the ExpressJet side loses money. Now they must stop that. Are they going to give in to the demands of a pilot group that's in denial or are they going to find a way to just wind the whole thing down?? Nobody has those answers but whatever it's gonna be is going to have to happen sooner rather than later.
I welcome the wind down. I rather not be part of his immoral whipsaw business practice.
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