RamenNoodles

Stop trolling. The ERJ operation isn't going anywhere; it's far too late for that. Why don't you spend your energy working toward a unified pilot group rather than cramming a wedge between us. You're making things worse, not better.

Captain Tony

Or they could just allow contracts to expire on the EMBs and gradually park them until L-XJT doesn't exist anymore. in case you haven't noticed, UAL isn't too happy right now.

Captain Tony

My prediction is that since L-XJT has refused to negotiate, SKYW Inc. will go ahead and submit a bid for the AA flying. All of the RFPs are bid by Inc. anyhow (not the individual airlines), and Inc. decides who will fly those CPAs. They will plan to operate the flights with SkyWest Airlines, as they gradually transition out of UAL and DAL flying. L-XJT will continue to park airplanes, and UAL will shift that flying to larger airplanes flown by someone else. L-ASA will continue to shrink under its a/c retirement schedule with DAL. In about 3 years, L-XJT won't exist anymore, L-ASA will be half its size, and they will merge L-ASA with SkyWest.

ross9238

I sure hope I'm gone before all this hits the fan but I'm hoping that I can leave this sector of our industry better for those who will come after us.

Cwils36

When did LXJT refuse to negotiate?

Jefferson

The XJT negotiation committee was asked for a list of items they needed in a contract by Mgmt. Rather than submitting the compiled list, they claimed they weren't ready. When the mediator offered a May date to get back together, they claimed they wouldn't be ready by then even. There is now a June meeting date. I don't think INC will wait until June to announce it does not intend to extend its arrangement with United and that LXJT will cease to exist.

I've tried to talk to LXJT crews socially.. about 85% act like entitled brats. The remaining 15% have been pleasant. The MEC/Negotiating committee at LXJT is not doing their pilot group any favors.

I'm not trolling... INC. is a corporation with shareholders to answer to, and the board of directors is reported to have lost their sense of humor over LXJT's behavior.

flyguy94

LXJT is going to cease to exist in June? I will report back in June and let you know how it's going. Your rumors are false and your generalization of LXJT is ridiculous



We have received some questions from pilots that indicate there is misinformation in circulation about the content and results of the meeting on Wednesday. The facts of the meeting are as follows:



· ALPA presented the Company with selected information from the polling data regarding pilot perceptions of the condition of the Company, pilot opinions of management, and general expectations for a new JCBA.

· The parties discussed shortcomings of previous communications efforts and how each side intends to better explain the process and the outcome to pilots.

· The parties discussed current operational problems and contract compliance issues. The Company acknowledged that the pilots need to see results in these areas and is working to make that a reality.

· ALPA clearly stated that concessions of any kind in the JCBA are not acceptable.

· The Company acknowledged that improvements must be made to the failed agreement; a reorganization of the failed JCBA’s overall value would not work.

· The Company asked to begin negotiations as soon as possible.

· The parties committed to continue the negotiations process without delay.

· The parties mutually agreed on the June dates for exchange of full proposals..

While a waiting until June to continue is not ideal, several important factors contributed to this decision:

· Developing an opening proposal is a complex and important task. Openers set the tone for a negotiating process, and just like a first impression you only get one chance. Because we will be developing new proposals and not just rehashing the terms of the failed JCBA, this will take more time.

· The online survey of the pilot group is still in progress, and proposals cannot be developed until analysis of the survey is complete. If you have yet to do so, please take the survey now.

· The two MECs have yet to meet together to discuss specific JNC guidance for negotiations and to determine a single position on new JCBA issues. We will not present openers to the Company until our positions have been vetted and approved by both MECs.

· There is currently a recall vote in Council 176, and the XJT MEC strongly believes that a decision on openers must be delayed until that process is complete so the pilots of 176 are properly represented.

Squawk87

Nice try... Why to fall for management tactics again? WE (xjt and asa) were so unified, and now after one negotiation session it seems that management is achieving it's goal to divide us again! I expected more from you (as someone who was so vocal during our TA voting)! We need to keep supporting each other and stop the mudslinging... I was under the impression that someone like you will call managements bluff.....

P.S.

L-XJT will still exist in 3 years... Many of the UA CPAs don't expire before 2020.... Who cares that UA is unhappy? When you cook a meal with expired ingredients (because they were cheaper), later don't complain that you have a diarrhea!!

Nevets

That's fine by me. But the last EMBs don't expire until the CPA expires in 2020. I can definitely see them parking all the 50 seaters (both sides) within 5 years and then transferring the 700/900s to Skywest and taking the last few hundred pilots with them.

What I don't buy is Inc moving away from two of their customers.

Do you see me worried about that? I voted no to a TA that would have supposedly averted that situation.

News flash! They've already told us they don't intend to extend it's arrangement with UAL. They threatened that and the resulting static fleet plan before the failed TA vote. Guess what? We said no anyway. It's old news.

DD214

For those of you who think CPAs can't be terminated you may have forgotton about this. The bottom line is If you don't own the flying you are at risk.

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