Originally Posted by Bartender

Some of the union peeps say the company is ready to deal on a contract that is an improvement, but the Legacy XJT reps are too scared to act and still don't want PBS. Sounds like Déjà Vu all over again. Houston we have a problem.

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock

How long have you guys been using smart pref for build up/ hybrid lines and has anyone had any direct experience with it?

Originally Posted by CaptainNameless

We are not opposed to PBS if a good system is used. The L-ASA PBS is inferior. Everyone knows the only reason it was demanded to be retained is because it is so labor intensive and so many ALPA guys get to stay home on trip loss pay to work it .The XJT system isn't perfect either, but it only takes a few guys system-wide to work it, not a few guys per base.

Originally Posted by mking84

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Originally Posted by bedrock


You don't get it. It's not about us; it's about the future of the airline pilot career. If we were so afraid of losing our jobs, we would never have voted NO by an 83% margin!

We were the first, remember!

We know our airline is going away. The mismanagement will see to that. We just were not going to help them line their pockets as they do it. As far as "lifers" go, there has been almost no hiring by the majors for 10 years! Only certain groups got hired. We also know that SKYW can't simply bankrupt us as we are their subsidiary. We are over 4,000 pilots and it will take a while for all those 175's to replace that feed. Let's see how the summer goes, when cancellations mount for lack of crews. Every labor group here is ****ed off, not one of them is doing anything beyond bare minimum, because management isn't either.




It is about the future. Bet you're happy you voted in a pay freeze huh? whoops

Originally Posted by spaaks

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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker


And Skywest bought a money losing operation why????

Retards like you talk as if you are part of the "team". I bet you were the guy in high school washing the football teams jockstraps and holding Johnny football heros' beer for him while he banged cheerleaders. I bet you thought those guys liked you and you were one of them. Little did you know you were nothing to them. You were just a little punk ***** lackey. Your opinions mean nothing to them. All your ass kissing means nothing to them. You make yourself look like a pathetic loser. I am very familiar with people like you. I have zero respect for your kind.

Fast forward to the present. Here you are now on the interweb carrying the company water as though the people you work for gave **** whether you lived or died. You are a number dude. The only thing that makes you relevant to your management is your ability to move a plane from point A to point B. If you had a stroke tomorrow I wouldn't expect a card from them.

Now back to your management ball washing.




Because now their single management team controls the majority of both Delta and United's feed

Originally Posted by Bartender

Some of the union peeps say the company is ready to deal on a contract that is an improvement, but the Legacy XJT reps are too scared to act and still don't want PBS. Sounds like Déjà Vu all over again. Houston we have a problem.

Originally Posted by BaronRouge380

And how long is reserve for DFW these days? I heard it is Avery small base, any plans to grow it?

Originally Posted by CaptainNameless

We are not opposed to PBS if a good system is used. The L-ASA PBS is inferior. Everyone knows the only reason it was demanded to be retained is because it is so labor intensive and so many ALPA guys get to stay home on trip loss pay to work it .The XJT system isn't perfect either, but it only takes a few guys system-wide to work it, not a few guys per base.

Originally Posted by Captain Tony

It is true. The company is ready to throw money on the table, the L-ASA side is ready to take it, and he L-XJT side has stalled negotiations until mid June. The L-XJT pilots need to ask their leaders why they need authorization from an MEC in recall to bargain for contract advances. Everyday that goes by is a missed opportunity. Tick tock tick tock. It's almost like they have ulterior motives for stalling this thing. As if they think it will give them an advantage in the SLI. That strategy didn't work for CAL, but hey what was that law of insanity Einstein came up with?

Originally Posted by Bartender

Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.

Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.

Originally Posted by AtlCSIP

It looks like reserve in DFW is probably a little over a year. This was based on a quick look at pilot assignments for May and the hire date of the guy 20% from the bottom. No current plans to grow it, from what I have heard, but that could change.