Originally Posted by pagey

Guy....You have 4500 pilots.

PSA is losing about 8 per month, so 16 every 2 months. We have 500 pilots.

Should I do the math for you?

146 pilots at XJT is 3.2% of your pilot group.

16 pilots at PSA is......You guessed it. 3.2%.

This is irrelevant to what I was talking about though.

Originally Posted by mking84

For somebody who is so good at math you'd think you would have done it before voting in your awesome concessionary TA that provides thousands less than your peers. But as a typical scab you got yours.

Originally Posted by BassFishr

Soo you credited over 115hr every month?

Originally Posted by pagey

Apples to oranges....Our new contract was not in effect for the entirety of last year. I am on pace for slightly less than that this year. With a very large bump in days off..... +5 or more per month.

So our pay is about the same.....what else makes your contract so much better than ours?

It looks like your pay rate at 2.5 years would be 39 for the bigger airplane. That's 126 hours per month. How many days off are you getting for that credit?

Originally Posted by Trip7

Most definitely added Per Diem into the 59k and worked max hours every month. ASA barely had any premium pay open time trips last year.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

Close to on average, some months lower, others higher. Highest was 130 on the nose, lowest was around 85. 130 had me at 18 days off, no vacation, and longest trip was a 2 day, and I only had 3 of those total and few day lines.

Originally Posted by beverage

Bullshiot.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

Why do you say that?

And I'm sorry, it was a 136 hours.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

Per diem is added, it is pay. I rarely every pick up open time anyways. But had my share of junior man pay. I typically pick up only from other crew members.

Originally Posted by pagey

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Originally Posted by flyguy94


Why would you advocate for new hire pilots to go somewhere with one of the worst contracts? (yes I've read it). In order for supply and demand to work and the working conditions at the regionals to improve, new hires MUST choose a regional based on QOL and pay.

Chasing an upgrade at a 3rd tier regional will only prove to management that we care nothing about working conditions and only upgrade time.

I hope for the industry's sake, PSA will be unable to fill classes and be forced to improve their contract.

I'm a new 121 pilot who chose xjt not based on upgrade time, new planes, or signing bonus. All I wanted was industry leading QOL. LXJTs contract gave me that.




And now you are an FO for the better part of the next decade.

My QoL at PSA is fantastic....that's right, fantastic. I am only a mid level FO. I choose my own schedule and I credit 90+ hours a month with 16+ days off. If I wanted to I could do 18-19 days off right around guarantee or 11 days off with 130+ hours credit.

My QoL starts and ends with time off, and then money, in that order. Scheduling is not able to touch my awarded days off.....EVER.

Just about a year ago PSA was applauded throughout the regionals for finally getting a pretty good contract after 5+ years of negotiating.

Now we have "one of the worst contracts out there"????? Our recent TA changed TWO ITEMS in our contract: Pay caps, and a bump in insurance costs. That's all. The insurance increase will cost me 32 dollars a year.

I guarantee I will make more at our(PSA's) 4 year FO cap of 41/hr than you will at your 8 year cap of 44 or 47. O, and I'll have more days off and every holiday/family event/birthday party/night of drinking with friends off than you. Which holidays did you work in 2013? Because I worked none of them.

Did you forget to read the scheduling section of our contract?

Tell me again what makes PSA a "3rd tier regional".

None of this is an excuse to vote in concessions as we would have had all that good stuff without receiving the 12/4 caps but you people are always telling us how "You read our contract it's terrible" when in reality you don't know what you are talking about and hate on PSA because everyone tells you to hate PSA, or GoJet, or whoever.