freezingflyboy

Also... THIS ^^^^^ cracks me up! Guess what? As a reserve captain, I get to fly with all the introvert, reject, asocial, obnoxious, arrogant, over reaching, entitled, mouth breather FOs. I love how some people think it takes the left seat for the weirdos to really show their colors. Newsflash folks: those captains everyone hates to fly with...they weren't BORN captains (though most of them will tell you with a straight face that they marched from their mother's womb with four stripes on their shoulder and scrambled eggs hanging from their hat). At one point they were FOs no one liked to fly with! Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!

pagey

An even better rule of thumb is that no one....NO ONE acts like they do on this forum in person. Probably because of the chance they would be punched in the face.

I have no problem looking every single one of my industry peers in the eyes, and smiling or waving and saying hello. Guess what happens......They all smile or say hello back.

This forum is a cesspool. People shouldn't take career advice from members who would post insulting, hateful, condescending, and mostly untrue rhetoric. That is the reason I chime in when I do, so people can hear facts, not hate.

Saabs

So very true. If I had listened to people on this forum I wouldn't have gone to colgan in 2007. Growth and upgrades are the most important aspects of a regional for your long term career.

Trip7

I completely agree, and stand with you Pagey.

freezingflyboy

The debate on internet vs. "real life" persona aside, you do realize that's just another way of saying "I do what's best for me and screw the rest of you/greater good," right? So we can expect no whining from you if Eagle passes their TA and leaves us at XJT twisting in the wind?

flyguy94

Just because somebody waves doesn't mean they respect you. Most regional pilots do not respect the actions of PSA and the damage they have done to the industry.

pagey

It was never about waving. You took the least important and easiest part of my post to fire back at me.

It was about making a career decision. Someone entering this industry right now would be foolish not to try Mesa, PSA, or Compass. Why on god's green earth should someone brand new to 121 go to XJT, or Skywest and have ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE at upgrading for probably 8 years, if ever, considering your mostly 50 seat fleet.

So YOU will respect him? Gimme me a break. Feeding his kids while living comfortably and actually contributing to his retirement is more important.

I voted no to PSA's TA. Not so other pilots would respect me, I don't care what you think about me. I voted no because it was WRONG for the new AAG to beat down an already battered section of the industry all while making record profits with over 10B in cash on hand.

Your respect means nothing to me. It once did, even as our vote was taking place. Now however, after seeing all the hate, and derisiveness that has been spewed by all of you your respect is irrelevant.

pagey

I apologize if this looks like me calling you out personally. By You I meant regional pilots in general.

flyguy94

Why would you advocate for new hire pilots to go somewhere with one of the worst contracts? (yes I've read it). In order for supply and demand to work and the working conditions at the regionals to improve, new hires MUST choose a regional based on QOL and pay.

Chasing an upgrade at a 3rd tier regional will only prove to management that we care nothing about working conditions and only upgrade time.

I hope for the industry's sake, PSA will be unable to fill classes and be forced to improve their contract.

I'm a new 121 pilot who chose xjt not based on upgrade time, new planes, or signing bonus. All I wanted was industry leading QOL. LXJTs contract gave me that.

pagey

And now you are an FO for the better part of the next decade.

My QoL at PSA is fantastic....that's right, fantastic. I am only a mid level FO. I choose my own schedule and I credit 90+ hours a month with 16+ days off. If I wanted to I could do 18-19 days off right around guarantee or 11 days off with 130+ hours credit.

My QoL starts and ends with time off, and then money, in that order. Scheduling is not able to touch my awarded days off.....EVER.

Just about a year ago PSA was applauded throughout the regionals for finally getting a pretty good contract after 5+ years of negotiating.

Now we have "one of the worst contracts out there"????? Our recent TA changed TWO ITEMS in our contract: Pay caps, and a bump in insurance costs. That's all. The insurance increase will cost me 32 dollars a year.

I guarantee I will make more at our(PSA's) 4 year FO cap of 41/hr than you will at your 8 year cap of 44 or 47. O, and I'll have more days off and every holiday/family event/birthday party/night of drinking with friends off than you. Which holidays did you work in 2013? Because I worked none of them.

Did you forget to read the scheduling section of our contract?

Tell me again what makes PSA a "3rd tier regional".

None of this is an excuse to vote in concessions as we would have had all that good stuff without receiving the 12/4 caps but you people are always telling us how "You read our contract it's terrible" when in reality you don't know what you are talking about and hate on PSA because everyone tells you to hate PSA, or GoJet, or whoever.