What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
03-13-2014, 10:44 PM
#5261
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Terrible advice DENpilot. I agree 100% with Capt Tony. A new 121 pilot should aim to make his stay at the regionals as short as possible, while making as much money as possible. Going somewhere with plenty of growth and/or attrition is a good strategy to help accomplish that. Compass, PSA and Mesa are excellent choices.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
Yeah
.... Everyone should join the race to the bottom!
03-14-2014, 04:16 AM
#5262
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,602
Terrible advice DENpilot. I agree 100% with Capt Tony. A new 121 pilot should aim to make his stay at the regionals as short as possible, while making as much money as possible. Going somewhere with plenty of growth and/or attrition is a good strategy to help accomplish that. Compass, PSA and Mesa are excellent choices.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
Yeah
.... Everyone should join the race to the bottom!
03-14-2014, 04:42 AM
#5263
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,982
Terrible advice DENpilot. I agree 100% with Capt Tony. A new 121 pilot should aim to make his stay at the regionals as short as possible, while making as much money as possible. Going somewhere with plenty of growth and/or attrition is a good strategy to help accomplish that. Compass, PSA and Mesa are excellent choices.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
Guys hired at these regionals are highly likely to upgrade years before you while you're enjoying driving to work on 7th year FO pay. PSA's junior Capt next July has yet to be hired. It's simple math.
03-14-2014, 05:27 AM
#5264
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
I gotta disagree. When I got hired in 2006, upgrade was less than 2 years. It took 6. I guess you could be one of those guys who goes to a new regional every 2 years when your promised upgrade doesn't materialize. And start over at first year pay several times. And lose longevity, 401k contributions, etc. That ends up costing more than a lot of people realize. Moral of the story: whoever has the short upgrade today may not tomorrow and vice versa.
But, why not at least take a shot at the quick upgrade at mesa, psa, or compass? At least there's a chance it will work out. Going to XJT, or pinnacle, eagle, or the almighty skywest is GUARANTEEING a long stay in the right seat.
The answer is always no if you don't ask.
03-14-2014, 07:05 AM
#5265
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
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Trip and I have went over this before and still doesn't make any sense to me that a person who believes that "PSA's junior Captain next July has yet to be hired" is not willing to take that leap of faith. The other aspect is that you are advocating people to go to PSA. I understand Compass but PSA, c'mon man.
We all know this is a crapshoot, things could do a total 180 in this industry as a whole or at a specific airline. Make the best informed decision based on the resources available to you and what will work for you and your family.
We all know this is a crapshoot, things could do a total 180 in this industry as a whole or at a specific airline. Make the best informed decision based on the resources available to you and what will work for you and your family.
03-14-2014, 07:06 AM
#5266
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Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
Some FOs may be squeaking through but you can't sit there and tell me 121 PIC is not going to give you a leg up.
03-14-2014, 07:13 AM
#5267
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Trip and I have went over this before and still doesn't make any sense to me that a person who believes that "PSA's junior Captain next July has yet to be hired" is not willing to take that leap of faith. The other aspect is that you are advocating people to go to PSA. I understand Compass but PSA, c'mon man.
We all know this is a crapshoot, things could do a total 180 in this industry as a whole or at a specific airline. Make the best informed decision based on the resources available to you and what will work for you and your family.
We all know this is a crapshoot, things could do a total 180 in this industry as a whole or at a specific airline. Make the best informed decision based on the resources available to you and what will work for you and your family.
c'mon man.
03-14-2014, 08:04 AM
#5268
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
I am sure you are right, but somebody is flying the MRJ.
MRJ - Mitsubishi Regional Jet
Also, I keep hearing everyone say go chase the upgrade, but if that was really the most successful route how come everyone who was ever on the Great lakes, Silver airways, Seaborne, Colgan payroll isn’t dominating the mainline new hire classes. I feel like these options only apply to current mainline employees children, and everyone else is a sucker for following them. Am I really to believe if PSA hired me today I would be a captain in 16 months , get 1000 Tpic within the following 12 and be at a mainline hew hire class in just over 2 years from now? That sounds like absolutely ridiculous advice. Pilots have been preaching that tune since 9/11 and it has really hasn’t ever worked for anyone other than the children of the industry.
03-14-2014, 08:08 AM
#5269
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Grounded
Posts: 451
Don't you work for PSA? If so, I see your concern when I mentioned PSA. The best informed decision is not only based on upgrade. You should also weigh the contract, base, etc. So yeah, c'mon man.
03-14-2014, 08:43 AM
#5270
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It doesn't concern me in the least. Our classes have been full.
The topic was movement and upgrades. Not contract. I have also made it fully known that I don't believe our contract is all that bad minus the pay caps(which a new hire will most likely never see.
The topic was movement and upgrades. Not contract. I have also made it fully known that I don't believe our contract is all that bad minus the pay caps(which a new hire will most likely never see.
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