What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
01-22-2014, 09:22 AM
#4972
Stuck Mic
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,059
Because this management has such a strong record of standing up to our mainline "partners"? Don't bet on it.
Really, we have more leverage with DAL since we own all the 700s and most of the 200s. They still need them and want them. UAL would simply park everything but the XRs, then find some bottom feeder to fly them.
Really, we have more leverage with DAL since we own all the 700s and most of the 200s. They still need them and want them. UAL would simply park everything but the XRs, then find some bottom feeder to fly them.
01-22-2014, 10:49 AM
#4973
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 298
Express Jet CRJ200 2013 operations costs were $553.00 / block hour.
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
It's not all about pilot costs.
01-22-2014, 10:59 AM
#4974
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Supposedly, DAL has given them relief from the "2nd lowest" clause. But I agree with you.
According the management, the big problem is the XJT side CPA with UAL. You know, the one they negotiated when we bought them. Apparently now it's up to us to take concessions instead of them renegotiating that.
UAL owns the ERJs. If they don't renegotiate, just self terminate the contract, give them back the planes, and tell them good luck finding a regional to staff them!
Heck it got real ugly for a while when RAH was trying to staff just 34 Q400s.
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Supposedly, DAL has given them relief from the "2nd lowest" clause. But I agree with you.
According the management, the big problem is the XJT side CPA with UAL. You know, the one they negotiated when we bought them. Apparently now it's up to us to take concessions instead of them renegotiating that.
UAL owns the ERJs. If they don't renegotiate, just self terminate the contract, give them back the planes, and tell them good luck finding a regional to staff them!
Heck it got real ugly for a while when RAH was trying to staff just 34 Q400s.
01-22-2014, 11:26 AM
#4975
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
Express Jet CRJ200 2013 operations costs were $553.00 / block hour.
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
01-22-2014, 12:50 PM
#4977
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,951
Express Jet CRJ200 2013 operations costs were $553.00 / block hour.
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
01-22-2014, 12:52 PM
#4979
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,951
SkyWest has a CPA with Delta for 200 flying over the next 5 years. Delta would have to buy them out. Bendover is wholly owned with no CPA and thus their airplanes can be parked tomorrow. That's the difference.
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