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Old 11-24-2013, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by somertime32
I was under the impression the reserve section would be improved. Guess I should have known better.
Yep because the people that negotiated this probably haven't seen reserve in a long time. Why should it matter to them? I haven't been on reserve in a while myself but had brought up consistent inconsistencies to the union and the response was, we could grieve it. Well, what did all the grievances get us anyway?

Before the whole negotiations, I had asked the reps to push for a no change to the final schedule put out to the reserves. They deserve to know what their month would look like in order to plan appointments, etc. When scheduling has the ability to move those day at their whim, you are taking away the little QOL that a reserve has.

It doesn't matter now and the only way to make a change is to vote accordingly.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by somertime32
I was under the impression the reserve section would be improved. Guess I should have known better.
There was a committee tasked with developing ways to improve reserve QOL. I spoke at length with one of its members about the proposals. He said they would be good enough where some senior folks would bid long call. I guess we now know where those recommendations ended up.

I think overall reserve QOL decreases with this TA, and the number of people who will be on reserve will increase (and it's too high as is). I can't believe they didn't insert a maximum on reserve coverage. Look at IAD for DEC:
-18 reserves, yet the TLV was set at 100.
-27%+ of the total FOs, and 37.5% WRT line holders.

and on a side note:
-Number of lines with Christmas GDOs: 1
-Number of lines with New Year's Eve GDOs: 0

Scheduling already has the reserves by the neck, and now they want us to give them MORE control over our lives?

Give me a break!
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
There was a committee tasked with developing ways to improve reserve QOL. I spoke at length with one of its members about the proposals. He said they would be good enough where some senior folks would bid long call. I guess we now know where those recommendations ended up.

I think overall reserve QOL decreases with this TA, and the number of people who will be on reserve will increase (and it's too high as is). I can't believe they didn't insert a maximum on reserve coverage. Look at IAD for DEC:
-18 reserves, yet the TLV was set at 100.
-27%+ of the total FOs, and 37.5% WRT line holders.


and on a side note:
-Number of lines with Christmas GDOs: 1
-Number of lines with New Year's Eve GDOs: 0

Scheduling already has the reserves by the neck, and now they want us to give them MORE control over our lives?

Give me a break!
After looking into the reserve issue I have decided to vote NO! Although there were some improvements and now the fact that I have to be a first officer, and a captain, along with other problems directed me in the NO direction. So for you L-Expressjet pilots you now have more NO votes going to come from the ASA side as well. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of reserve pilots will be voting NO.

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Old 11-24-2013, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
Although there were some improvements and now the fact that I have to be a first officer, and a captain, along with other problems directed me in the NO direction.
I am lost. Are you a captain or an FO?
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
I am lost. Are you a captain or an FO?
Does it matter. If passed, I am both. It's a big NO!
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:14 AM
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That's exactly what I mean…how are you both? How long ago were you hired?
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:27 AM
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That's exactly what I mean…how are you both? How long ago were you hired?
What he's saying is that if this TA passes, because he's a reserve pilot, this new contract requires him to fly as both a captain and a first officer depending on the needs of the company, a HUGE concession.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:32 AM
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Didn't know that he was a captain, I had thought he was an FO. Well that makes sense now. Thanks.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxPowerSet
What he's saying is that if this TA passes, because he's a reserve pilot, this new contract requires him to fly as both a captain and a first officer depending on the needs of the company, a HUGE concession.
I don't see why that's a concession really?

I'm a reserve captain on the Erj side and we are already assigned to sit right seat on occasion. You still get paid as a captain so what different does it make?

I mean they're not going to do it often because they're paying a captain to an FO job.
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As dumb as it sounds if your not in the "secret Facebook group for the TA" ask around for someone to invite you in...1040 strong already
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