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Old 08-29-2013, 05:10 AM
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And I hear DAL is getting the C55 crew lounge so all their crews on C have a place to go, and we are moving everyone to the D lounge! Of course, there won't be many left in ATL anyway.
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:48 AM
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And I hear DAL is getting the C55 crew lounge so all their crews on C have a place to go, and we are moving everyone to the D lounge! Of course, there won't be many left in ATL anyway.
Probably just flamebait, but I also heard there were a couple of guys from Delta with clip boards in hand walking through our lounge last week.
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:50 AM
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Are you seriously complaining that Delta is taking back flying?? Wow... Just wow... I honestly don't even know what to say to that..
I did not see Trip-7's comment as a complaint, but only an observation of the changing times.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:43 AM
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We will begin hiring the next generation of Delta pilots in just a few months; the first indoctrination class is scheduled for November 4. Those who join our seniority list over the coming months and years will, from all indications, have a great career ahead. Although we will always continue our efforts to improve the operation, our product and our customer service, we have worked together to make Delta a formidable competitor and a premier global carrier. Customers, both domestically and internationally, are willing to pay a premium to fly Delta thanks to the outstanding service you and our Delta colleagues provide. We are investing in our fleet and focusing on operational excellence - and this is also making a difference.

Once hiring begins, the schoolhouse and sims will be ramped up to full capacity with both new-hires and line pilots transitioning to different seat positions and categories. As we begin this new chapter at Delta, I want to pause just a moment to thank each of you for your continued professionalism and leadership. We owe much credit to the aviators who mentored us. Perhaps our most important contribution as pilots is to pass along to the next generation the invaluable lessons, skills and professionalism that we each learned as new-hires. The Delta Pilot Seniority List is comprised of the finest aviation professionals in the world -- and we are well-represented by a wide range of backgrounds. Whether you began your airline career at one of the great legacy carriers – Delta, Northwest, Republic, Western and Pan Am– or rose through the ranks of the regional airlines, we are a stronger workforce due, in part, to our diverse experiences and shared vision for what the future holds.

I know there are a lot of questions about the hiring process and how to recommend someone for a piloting position. The following FAQs address this and other issues. We will update these FAQs periodically as more details become available.

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Old 08-29-2013, 09:51 AM
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it would probably be beneficial to get to the acceptance stage that ATL is a dying base. The line between line holders and reserves on the 700 is spring 2008 hires. For those of us on the losing end of seniority we need to think beyond ATL.
This is why i'm not for a joint contract right now let ATL thin down. It seem to be Deltas plan anyway. Sorry ASA brothers but its business and in business its not persona. But everyone takes it that way, so that right there is why we will never get ahead in this industry.
LXJT will be losing aircraft as well.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by String682:1472615
Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Are you seriously complaining that Delta is taking back flying?? Wow... Just wow... I honestly don't even know what to say to that..
I did not see Trip-7's comment as a complaint, but only an observation of the changing times.
Talk about jumping to conclusions. Thank You String!
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406:1472580
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ATL is the incredible shrinking base. It's ironic that the changes can be seen just by looking out the window in the crew lounge. What used to be C gates filled with our 200/700/900s are now occupied by MD88s,737s, and A320s. Once the 717 arrives that'll be like the Grim Reaper showing up for the XJT ATL Base.
It's a good thing mainline is taking back a lot of these CRJ50 flights. Let that plane die and don't give up one more airplane.

What is the cap on DCI once the 50s are gone? 450 large RJs among the DCIs right?
450 Total DCI
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:06 PM
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Yes, we compete against all those regionals. And if Skywest Inc wins any flying, our CEO whipsaws Skywest pilots against us. So I fault the CEO more than the pilots but then again, that's what he is paid to
do. Not so with the pilots. I don't blame Skywest pilots for the whipsaw the majors orchestrate against the regionals. But I do partially blame them for the whipsaw our CEO is paid to administer on his own employees because the Skywest pilots are able to stop that if they really wanted. They cannot stop the whipsawing in the whole regional industry but hey can within our corporation. And that would move the needle in the right direction in the fight against whipsaw in our segment of this industry. If they are not willing to "pay the price" to stop the whipsaw from our own CEO, then they are NOT for stopping the whipsaw. And that was my main point to Skywest pilots. If they are for it, them they should be for one list. Anything else is just lip service.
Let's just say they become union...How does that stop the whipsaw within the corporation? ASA and CMR were whipsawed when we were part of the same corporation. Hulas is going to whipsaw GoJet, TSA, and Compass. No whipsaw currently at RAH...but they aren't gaining anything either.

Just because they are union doesn't mean there isn't going to be whipsaw. Look at all the whipsaw right now between union carriers.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:27 PM
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Yes, we compete against all those regionals. And if Skywest Inc wins any flying, our CEO whipsaws Skywest pilots against us. So I fault the CEO more than the pilots but then again, that's what he is paid to
do. Not so with the pilots. I don't blame Skywest pilots for the whipsaw the majors orchestrate against the regionals. But I do partially blame them for the whipsaw our CEO is paid to administer on his own employees because the Skywest pilots are able to stop that if they really wanted. They cannot stop the whipsawing in the whole regional industry but hey can within our corporation. And that would move the needle in the right direction in the fight against whipsaw in our segment of this industry. If they are not willing to "pay the price" to stop the whipsaw from our own CEO, then they are NOT for stopping the whipsaw. And that was my main point to Skywest pilots. If they are for it, them they should be for one list. Anything else is just lip service.
Let's just say they become union...How does that stop the whipsaw within the corporation? ASA and CMR were whipsawed when we were part of the same corporation. Hulas is going to whipsaw GoJet, TSA, and Compass. No whipsaw currently at RAH...but they aren't gaining anything either.

Just because they are union doesn't mean there isn't going to be whipsaw. Look at all the whipsaw right now between union carriers.
You mentioned it earlier. RAH isn't being whipsawed anymore because they are all on one list (one list doesn't guarantee a TA but it can in our case). A similar structure here would also stop the second round of whipsaw we are currently being subjected to by our own CEO. But like I said, my main point is that many pilots are not interested in a similar structure because they are not really for stopping the whipsaw from our own company.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Man, I think your dead on! Not only are we gonna park some a/c some are gonna park themselves. These things are at there life cycle, I shiit you not some are totally junk!
The RJ's in Dulles are falling apart. It's embarrassing.
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