What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
08-05-2013, 11:17 AM
#3861
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
The day we are required to pay for our own hotels, will be the day this airline goes out of business because all the pilots have refused to work.
08-05-2013, 12:13 PM
#3863
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Recliner 105A
Posts: 225
Hoser
08-05-2013, 12:14 PM
#3864
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,602
Dear fellow pilots:
As we previously reported, during our July 15th mediated negotiations session, management’s negotiators requested significant financial concessions. Your JNC then spent the remainder of that weekend trying to better understand management’s analysis justifying the concessions. That mediation session concluded with a request for senior management to meet with the MEC and explain the situation directly to your elected leadership.
On July 29th, Brad Rich (President of SkyWest, Inc.), Brad Holt, and Charlie Tutt met with the MEC, key committee members, and ALPA advisors for over three hours. During this no-holds-barred discussion, senior management presented their case for concessions. It should be stressed that ExpressJet is not on the verge of bankruptcy, nor is management requesting the deep cuts we saw demanded from the Pinnacle and American Eagle pilot groups. However, senior management put forward their case that, in order for our combined group to win new flying contracts in the restructured regional industry environment, reductions must be made to our total pilot block hour costs. Presently, these costs are just about the highest in the industry on account of more junior work forces at some competitors (such as Compass and GoJet), and the bankruptcy concessions endured by two pilot groups. Additionally, our total pilot block hour costs are significantly higher than SkyWest Airlines, which is our sole competitor on all flying won by SkyWest Inc.
At this time it is the opinion of your MECs that management failed to produce a mutually agreeable solution that addresses management’s concerns for a competitive economic package. In an attempt to bridge this information gap, we will continue a dialogue with the Company. At the same time, given our own concerns over the immediate need to win new flying, re-fleet our airline, and potential further reductions to other regional pilot contracts, the MEC has directed the JNC to continue negotiations and explore alternatives that seek to minimize the impact to our pilots while ensuring that job security protections for our pilots are addressed. The decision to move forward with negotiations is not a yes or no to concessions. We expect to get the best JCBA possible given the circumstances, and then when such JCBA Tentative Agreement is reached, it will be judged in its entirety by the MECs and the pilot group. We also recognize that management must explain the situation directly with you, and they have given us assurances that they will step-up their communications efforts.
We will, of course, keep you informed as we learn more.
Fraternally,
Capt. David Nieuwenhuis Capt. Chris Grable
ASA Chairman XJT Chairman
As we previously reported, during our July 15th mediated negotiations session, management’s negotiators requested significant financial concessions. Your JNC then spent the remainder of that weekend trying to better understand management’s analysis justifying the concessions. That mediation session concluded with a request for senior management to meet with the MEC and explain the situation directly to your elected leadership.
On July 29th, Brad Rich (President of SkyWest, Inc.), Brad Holt, and Charlie Tutt met with the MEC, key committee members, and ALPA advisors for over three hours. During this no-holds-barred discussion, senior management presented their case for concessions. It should be stressed that ExpressJet is not on the verge of bankruptcy, nor is management requesting the deep cuts we saw demanded from the Pinnacle and American Eagle pilot groups. However, senior management put forward their case that, in order for our combined group to win new flying contracts in the restructured regional industry environment, reductions must be made to our total pilot block hour costs. Presently, these costs are just about the highest in the industry on account of more junior work forces at some competitors (such as Compass and GoJet), and the bankruptcy concessions endured by two pilot groups. Additionally, our total pilot block hour costs are significantly higher than SkyWest Airlines, which is our sole competitor on all flying won by SkyWest Inc.
At this time it is the opinion of your MECs that management failed to produce a mutually agreeable solution that addresses management’s concerns for a competitive economic package. In an attempt to bridge this information gap, we will continue a dialogue with the Company. At the same time, given our own concerns over the immediate need to win new flying, re-fleet our airline, and potential further reductions to other regional pilot contracts, the MEC has directed the JNC to continue negotiations and explore alternatives that seek to minimize the impact to our pilots while ensuring that job security protections for our pilots are addressed. The decision to move forward with negotiations is not a yes or no to concessions. We expect to get the best JCBA possible given the circumstances, and then when such JCBA Tentative Agreement is reached, it will be judged in its entirety by the MECs and the pilot group. We also recognize that management must explain the situation directly with you, and they have given us assurances that they will step-up their communications efforts.
We will, of course, keep you informed as we learn more.
Fraternally,
Capt. David Nieuwenhuis Capt. Chris Grable
ASA Chairman XJT Chairman
08-05-2013, 12:14 PM
#3865
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 23
^Whats the point of even saying something like that?
He just brought up a rumor and you just attack him out of the blue.
08-05-2013, 12:31 PM
#3867
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: e190
Posts: 929
Read through the thread. Kilroy has come up with dozens of "I just heard..." and "Rumor has it..." and every one of them has been ridiculous. He is either getting his info from some horrendous sources or he is trolling badly.
08-05-2013, 12:32 PM
#3868
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 23
Ah, alright. I'm pretty new here and see a lot of people attacking each other in this thread and don't really know why since we're all on the same team.
08-05-2013, 01:04 PM
#3869
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Grounded
Posts: 451
The only problem is that newhire "bids" are actually preferences. The company can and does put newhires wherever they're needed at the moment. And the last few classes have gotten CRJ ATL if I'm not mistaken since that's where a lot of the attrition has been. So really it's a crap shoot whether you go ERJ side or CRJ side... but will make a big difference in your career and QOL.
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