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Old 06-29-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
One interesting thing though is the fact that the company seems to be legitimately concerned about where to get people once attrition and subsequent hiring really starts to pick up (the only reason we hired so much in 2011 is because we were severely short staffed).
Actually it was just a rapid shift in flying. Delta was awarding ASA tons of flying and the company had not prepared for it staffing wise. Mostly because Delta liked the fact that we promised to be the second cheapest regional carrier in the DCI system. Now Delta is rapidly taking it back and awarding it to the cheapest regional carrier. Although these might not be perfectly accurate facts, it's a little closer to the truth than just shortly staffed.

The regionals really shot themselves in the foot if they are going to need people and cannot find them. I think in the end the mighty share holder will once again win. Sad
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Good times are coming our way. The Delta TA passed and this is good for us all. couldn't be at a better company to work for right now. Let the good times roll......
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:33 PM
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Back to the topic at hand; the word from the local rep i talked to last week was that things had really slowed down. Everyone wanted to see the Delta ta results and the company and alpa had started squibling over what things would actually cost, ie, what a raise in min day actually costs the company or what a change in rest rules costs. ( the preceding are used as examples only) His opinion was we wouldnt be seeing a ta until fall at the soonest.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:20 AM
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oh and "who is asa?" lol, the company that bought you. Then again, im sure you still think you bought us. rotflamo
..and you think your "safe" with your United contract for all your amazing 50's?
"The deal (massive reduction of 50 seaters) is likely to become a benchmark for pilot talks at United Airlines, too, and will ripple through negotiations at other airlines. "
ASA didn't buy anyone. And XJT pilots don't have anything to worry about if UAL has the same deal as DAL.

Anything else?

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Old 07-01-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
ASA didn't buy anyone.
Why are you guys so stuck on that? SkyWest Inc. bought XJT. SkyWest Inc. is made up of SkyWest and ASA. BOTH funded the purchase.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:43 AM
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Who bought who doesn't matter anymore. What matters is that we have a TA to work through with intelligence and objectivity. We have no control over what happened in the past. We all have a choice to make. Do you want to be part of the solution or part of the problem?
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Who bought who doesn't matter anymore. What matters is that we have a TA to work through with intelligence and objectivity. We have no control over what happened in the past. We all have a choice to make. Do you want to be part of the solution or part of the problem?
Won't matter how great it is, ERJ side most likely will not touch it. They don't want SLI due to the Delta TA.

I'm curious to see what JA does when this gets dragged out.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:28 PM
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Won't matter how great it is, ERJ side most likely will not touch it. They don't want SLI due to the Delta TA.

I'm curious to see what JA does when this gets dragged out.
That's actually a good question. So much of this is chance. Say we do acquire new business and they operate/want a CRJ fleet, well common sense dictates that the flying would go to either the XJT-CRJ side or to Skywest. Say we get some of eagle's farmed out work (I hope not) and they're ERJs, well TA or not, just strictly talking about cost JA will drop them on this side of the house, who the hell knows?!

What I do know is that whether we drag this out or not management still wins (by management I mean Skywest). They'll either save by having a combined, predictable cost structure; or they'll save by avoiding additional training events when the CRJ side furloughs and downgrades.

Here's a couple of facts that people keep ignoring:

1. Management already said there will not be a flush bid regardless of the outcome of the SLI, too expensive.

2. The UA (CAL) contract that JA negotiated is a 1 to 1 replacement ratio for most frames, unlike the Delta CPA.

So I'll ask a serious question for a change seeing as people like edit out inflammatory remarks.

WHAT INCENTIVE IS THERE FOR THE ERJ GUYS TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY?

Anyone.........?

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MOD NOTE: Keep the gloves up, everyone. If someone's post gets your blood pressure up, go after what they said and not the person.
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
That's actually a good question. So much of this is chance. Say we do acquire new business and they operate/want a CRJ fleet, well common sense dictates that the flying would go to either the XJT-CRJ side or to Skywest. Say we get some of eagle's farmed out work (I hope not) and they're ERJs, well TA or not, just strictly talking about cost JA will drop them on this side of the house, who the hell knows?!

What I do know is that whether we drag this out or not management still wins (by management I mean Skywest). They'll either save by having a combined, predictable cost structure; or they'll save by avoiding additional training events when the CRJ side furloughs and downgrades.

Here's a couple of facts that people keep ignoring:

1. Management already said there will not be a flush bid regardless of the outcome of the SLI, too expensive.

2. The UA (CAL) contract that JA negotiated is a 1 to 1 replacement ratio for most frames, unlike the Delta CPA.

So I'll ask a serious question for a change seeing as people like edit

WHAT INCENTIVE IS THERE FOR THE ERJ GUYS TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY?

Anyone.........?
If American wants to drop some ERJ flying Skywest might take it vs XJT getting it since they do have the ERJ on their certificate as of a few years ago.

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