What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
05-01-2013, 08:43 AM
#2831
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 326
My last fatigue event, I didn't need to fill that out. Granted scheduling did some shady stuff to make something "legal" when it wasn't, I still called in fatigued. I shot Mr. Tutt an e-mail and he replied within 3 hours. Fatigue event was reviewed and approved within 2 days.
05-01-2013, 11:11 AM
#2832
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 42
We're losing 14 CR2s this fall, and more to come in 2014 and 2015 until the 66 CR2(combined with SKYW) we agreed to shed for the 34 large RJ quota is met.
More critical, is the rate reset for the Delta CR2 fleet that comes in December 2014. We will have to match Pinnacle's rates or else. Reference every single BH update about how we're cutting cost but have a "long" way to go.
Oh, and Delta has told Pinnacle they won't be losing all their CR2s since they "played ball". Coincidence? I tell ya what, they not paying RA $7 mil for nothing. House of Cards.... The Airline Version
More critical, is the rate reset for the Delta CR2 fleet that comes in December 2014. We will have to match Pinnacle's rates or else. Reference every single BH update about how we're cutting cost but have a "long" way to go.
Oh, and Delta has told Pinnacle they won't be losing all their CR2s since they "played ball". Coincidence? I tell ya what, they not paying RA $7 mil for nothing. House of Cards.... The Airline Version
I've always believed in the rate reset but called a rep last week to ask some questions about negotiations etc. He said that is just a rumor and scare tactic. Not sure if I believe him.
As of last week Pinnacle will have no CR2's. where did you hear this? I'm guessing a crew room rumor.
05-01-2013, 11:57 AM
#2833
Underpaid...
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
I'm curious where you heard all of these CRJ's leave in 2014 & 2015. Yes, 66 need to leave but I believe 11 went to Dallas, 12 went to LAX, 14 leave Atlanta to the desert by December, and the rest come from SkyWest. Our next contract is up in 2015 and is the IAD flying. After that our Delta contracts go until 2020 or later. If we lose anymore it will be because of performance breaking the contract (possible this summer) or we agree to a 2 for one type deal.
I've always believed in the rate reset but called a rep last week to ask some questions about negotiations etc. He said that is just a rumor and scare tactic. Not sure if I believe him.
As of last week Pinnacle will have no CR2's. where did you hear this? I'm guessing a crew room rumor.
I've always believed in the rate reset but called a rep last week to ask some questions about negotiations etc. He said that is just a rumor and scare tactic. Not sure if I believe him.
As of last week Pinnacle will have no CR2's. where did you hear this? I'm guessing a crew room rumor.
05-01-2013, 12:45 PM
#2834
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,602
Originally Posted by DontRelaxScope:1401575
We're losing 14 CR2s this fall, and more to come in 2014 and 2015 until the 66 CR2(combined with SKYW) we agreed to shed for the 34 large RJ quota is met.
More critical, is the rate reset for the Delta CR2 fleet that comes in December 2014. We will have to match Pinnacle's rates or else. Reference every single BH update about how we're cutting cost but have a "long" way to go.
Oh, and Delta has told Pinnacle they won't be losing all their CR2s since they "played ball". Coincidence? I tell ya what, they not paying RA $7 mil for nothing. House of Cards.... The Airline Version
More critical, is the rate reset for the Delta CR2 fleet that comes in December 2014. We will have to match Pinnacle's rates or else. Reference every single BH update about how we're cutting cost but have a "long" way to go.
Oh, and Delta has told Pinnacle they won't be losing all their CR2s since they "played ball". Coincidence? I tell ya what, they not paying RA $7 mil for nothing. House of Cards.... The Airline Version
I've always believed in the rate reset but called a rep last week to ask some questions about negotiations etc. He said that is just a rumor and scare tactic. Not sure if I believe him.
As of last week Pinnacle will have no CR2's. where did you hear this? I'm guessing a crew room rumor.
The rate reset is no rumor or scare tactic. It's real and written in Inc's 10-K. Come Dec. 2014 Expressjet will be paid the 2nd lowest rate amoung DCI carriers or they can opt out of the contract.
As far as the PNCL keeping some of their 200s, I understand it was told to the pilot group from management, which now happens to be Delta
05-01-2013, 02:28 PM
#2835
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 544
I'm not sure where you are getting that the rest will come from SkyWest. As others mentioned 23 of the 66 have been placed at AA, which leaves 43. The "Among Friends" publication said XJT would park 14 by December, but had no projection for 2014. CT told a training class recently that we would be losing 19 by December, starting one month sooner than previously published. Assuming that is true that leaves approximately 24 CRJ200s to be removed. If you believe that SkyWest is going to park more aircraft than ExpressJet in this deal I've got a bridge to sell you.
05-02-2013, 06:53 AM
#2836
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,951
I'm pretty sure it was required before. I was sent one last summer which clearly stated failure to return it by the deadline would result in that.
05-02-2013, 06:57 AM
#2837
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,951
Wrong again. A little birdie (well actually not so little) tells me this was waived as part of SKW, Inc's most recent agreement with DAL where we took a bunch of Comair planes off their hands.
05-02-2013, 07:00 AM
#2838
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,951
I'm not sure where you are getting that the rest will come from SkyWest. As others mentioned 23 of the 66 have been placed at AA, which leaves 43. The "Among Friends" publication said XJT would park 14 by December, but had no projection for 2014. CT told a training class recently that we would be losing 19 by December, starting one month sooner than previously published. Assuming that is true that leaves approximately 24 CRJ200s to be removed. If you believe that SkyWest is going to park more aircraft than ExpressJet in this deal I've got a bridge to sell you.
05-02-2013, 08:07 AM
#2839
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,134
Trip 7 is a middle seniority FO with no management or union connections. 100% of his information comes from cross referencing these rumor forums, and reading dated 10-K reports or aviation publications. There's little point debating him. It's kind of like debating Nevets, but without all the drama.
05-02-2013, 08:15 AM
#2840
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 268
Anyone know if the union is addressing the fact that with new rest rules we could end up working more "restfull" days and less days off?
I would hate ending up with 12 day off months do to low credit 3-4 days.
I know they are working on min day credit but realistically what would it have to be to not take a hit on time at home.
I'm honestly more fatigued sitting around at hotels "resting" not home then if I were working hard them going home for a good stretch
Sorry if its been covered before I haven't seen it please don't yell at me capt tony
I would hate ending up with 12 day off months do to low credit 3-4 days.
I know they are working on min day credit but realistically what would it have to be to not take a hit on time at home.
I'm honestly more fatigued sitting around at hotels "resting" not home then if I were working hard them going home for a good stretch
Sorry if its been covered before I haven't seen it please don't yell at me capt tony
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