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Old 02-21-2013, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vertisch
Evidently that's just due to the survey saying they want to see managers pretty faces more often
It'll last a few months and then they won't show again. Also, the people they have been sending don't know squat, why can't they send some higher ups instead of crew scheduling director, safety director, etc.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
It'll last a few months and then they won't show again. Also, the people they have been sending don't know squat, why can't they send some higher ups instead of crew scheduling director, safety director, etc.
Because they have better things to do than come out and be harrased by pilots.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
It'll last a few months and then they won't show again. Also, the people they have been sending don't know squat, why can't they send some higher ups instead of crew scheduling director, safety director, etc.
Because they have better things to do than come out and be harrased by pilots.
I think part of the frustration for some is anytime there is an announcement it involves acey day, mini Indy, a new company store or now the "best of the best" vote.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
I think part of the frustration for some is anytime there is an announcement it involves acey day, mini Indy, a new company store or now the "best of the best" vote.
This isnt a knock at the ASA pilot group, but what it comes down to is ASA management is used to running a small airline that barely flew across state lines...... The New "Expressjet" is much much larger, has a much more dynamic route structure, has additional bases in ORD, EWR, IAH, CLE, IAD, IAH etc. The ASA M/X program is a joke. When I started at XJT almost 7 years ago, airplanes simply did not have MEL, and if they did, they were fixed the next day. The airplanes now carry MULTIPLE MELs for days on end. The "ASA" way of doing things is to not "stock" parts because that costs money. (apparently the hundreds of millions of dollars Skywest has isnt enough to stock parts in major hubs). Schedulers are overworked and under-paid and don't know the contract, nor do they care to. The Dispatchers are new, they don't know much and half the time dont get back to you via ACARS and if they do, it's usually a message "You aren't the only A/C in the world".............its pathetic.

The bottom line is XJT used to be run like a major airline until ASA came around and decided they would run it "their way". The result is a De-evolution of a once great airline.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
I think part of the frustration for some is anytime there is an announcement it involves acey day, mini Indy, a new company store or now the "best of the best" vote.
I understand but if that's all they have, that's all they have. More flying would be nice yes, but they don't have any. Not sure why anyone would be sitting around waiting for something, it's almost better to just come to work, do your job and go home. When something big happens you'll be the last to know and you can celebrate then. Until then KCCO!
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
This isnt a knock at the ASA pilot group, but what it comes down to is ASA management is used to running a small airline that barely flew across state lines...... The New "Expressjet" is much much larger, has a much more dynamic route structure, has additional bases in ORD, EWR, IAH, CLE, IAD, IAH etc. The ASA M/X program is a joke. When I started at XJT almost 7 years ago, airplanes simply did not have MEL, and if they did, they were fixed the next day. The airplanes now carry MULTIPLE MELs for days on end. The "ASA" way of doing things is to not "stock" parts because that costs money. (apparently the hundreds of millions of dollars Skywest has isnt enough to stock parts in major hubs). Schedulers are overworked and under-paid and don't know the contract, nor do they care to. The Dispatchers are new, they don't know much and half the time dont get back to you via ACARS and if they do, it's usually a message "You aren't the only A/C in the world".............its pathetic.

The bottom line is XJT used to be run like a major airline until ASA came around and decided they would run it "their way". The result is a De-evolution of a once great airline.
Couldn't have said it better myself. When I started CAL and us were one in the same. We were run the same way, in many cases by the same people. The last few years we have been shown what it truly means to be a regional. I cant believe how many "lifers" have told me they are now planning their exits. Its pretty sad actually.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
This isnt a knock at the ASA pilot group, but what it comes down to is ASA management is used to running a small airline that barely flew across state lines...... The New "Expressjet" is much much larger, has a much more dynamic route structure, has additional bases in ORD, EWR, IAH, CLE, IAD, IAH etc. The ASA M/X program is a joke. When I started at XJT almost 7 years ago, airplanes simply did not have MEL, and if they did, they were fixed the next day. The airplanes now carry MULTIPLE MELs for days on end. The "ASA" way of doing things is to not "stock" parts because that costs money. (apparently the hundreds of millions of dollars Skywest has isnt enough to stock parts in major hubs). Schedulers are overworked and under-paid and don't know the contract, nor do they care to. The Dispatchers are new, they don't know much and half the time dont get back to you via ACARS and if they do, it's usually a message "You aren't the only A/C in the world".............its pathetic.

The bottom line is XJT used to be run like a major airline until ASA came around and decided they would run it "their way". The result is a De-evolution of a once great airline.
I agree partly, if you have to file bankruptcy to be a major airline, then yes. Why dump money into planes you want to get rid of, ERJ's and CRJ's. Pilot shortage is near, "This isn't a knock at the LXJT pilot group" but I personally think LXJT was bought for the pilot pool. We all wonder why Skywest bought an airline with RJ's that nobody wants to fly anymore. A lot of pilots for a shrinking regional market.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
This isnt a knock at the ASA pilot group, but what it comes down to is ASA management is used to running a small airline that barely flew across state lines...... The New "Expressjet" is much much larger, has a much more dynamic route structure, has additional bases in ORD, EWR, IAH, CLE, IAD, IAH etc. The ASA M/X program is a joke. When I started at XJT almost 7 years ago, airplanes simply did not have MEL, and if they did, they were fixed the next day. The airplanes now carry MULTIPLE MELs for days on end. The "ASA" way of doing things is to not "stock" parts because that costs money. (apparently the hundreds of millions of dollars Skywest has isnt enough to stock parts in major hubs). Schedulers are overworked and under-paid and don't know the contract, nor do they care to. The Dispatchers are new, they don't know much and half the time dont get back to you via ACARS and if they do, it's usually a message "You aren't the only A/C in the world".............its pathetic.

The bottom line is XJT used to be run like a major airline until ASA came around and decided they would run it "their way". The result is a De-evolution of a once great airline.
Actually Joe, it started BEFORE being bought. After the 2008 CAL squeeze and reign of the Green Lantern is when it started. ATL just continued down that road. You could even back it up slightly from there, DelCon and Branded didn't get to piggy back everything off CAL. Watching them handle scheduling with CrewTrac and constantly screwing up PMR's and not paying correctly really isnt that different than the incompetence in ATL now.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
I think part of the frustration for some is anytime there is an announcement it involves acey day, mini Indy, a new company store or now the "best of the best" vote.
I understand but if that's all they have, that's all they have. More flying would be nice yes, but they don't have any. Not sure why anyone would be sitting around waiting for something, it's almost better to just come to work, do your job and go home. When something big happens you'll be the last to know and you can celebrate then. Until then KCCO!
I see what you mean but can't this place focus a little more on part stocking, MELs, scheduling and dispatch incompetence, pay mistakes, disregard for the contracts they signed, getting anyone to pick up a phone at the Atech, etc etc and a little less on the feel good smoke and mirrors of "best of best votes" and mini Indy. There seemingly isn't one communication from management that does not mention being cost competitive, yet what's the total amount we spend on this nonsense and the man hours from employees dedicated to stuff no one really seems to care about?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:35 AM
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So where is this supposed pos. notice?
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