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Old 02-20-2013, 08:00 AM
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So do those in management lie?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:01 AM
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either that or clueless..... probably both
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
"currently we have no plans to add the crj900 to our fleet" - SH one day prior to announcing 900s to the fleet 4 years ago
HAHAHA epic SH response. SH is one of the biggest management pawns I have ever seen. I honestly feel bad for the man. He was the management scapegoat for BH and CT for years. My guess is that when he sent out that letter a couple of summers ago, BH had set his parameters to fund the pilot group so tight that there was no recourse. In the end they demoted his ass and thanked him for taking the whip for them. All the while the senior end of our pilot group have this weird respect for BH and think he saved the company.

SH, BH, CT, I'm sure they read these posts. In part' I think it's why they treat us like we are morons. That said the lists of SH quotes is beyond compare. Does anyone remember SH's paper costs? hahaha

there hasn't been anything on a position notice but at the same time I think they have gotten used to no one leaving for so long that they don't know how to react to even just a couple of people punching out. We are on the edge of losing large amounts of pilots. I think they were expecting to lose some captains but the unexpected thing is the senior FO's leaving. The problem with giving all of your 5000+ hour FO's ATPs is that they may stand a chance of getting hired some places without pic time. My guess is that by the end of this year the ASA side alone will be losing over 30 a month. On top of that the rest rule requirements will destroy xjet/asa. They simply will not be able to run the place with the staff they have now in the summer of 2014 not withstanding massive shrinkage.
Anyways carry on...
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurryage65
I was told the message is coming out on Friday for it, info right from "man power management"
Well that certainly seems like the proper source for this kind of info.

Bring on the good news hopefully!!!

Did you hear from SH? (the bidding lady)
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
HAHAHA epic SH response. SH is one of the biggest management pawns I have ever seen. I honestly feel bad for the man. He was the management scapegoat for BH and CT for years. My guess is that when he sent out that letter a couple of summers ago, BH had set his parameters to fund the pilot group so tight that there was no recourse. In the end they demoted his ass and thanked him for taking the whip for them. All the while the senior end of our pilot group have this weird respect for BH and think he saved the company.

SH, BH, CT, I'm sure they read these posts. In part' I think it's why they treat us like we are morons. That said the lists of SH quotes is beyond compare. Does anyone remember SH's paper costs? hahaha

there hasn't been anything on a position notice but at the same time I think they have gotten used to no one leaving for so long that they don't know how to react to even just a couple of people punching out. We are on the edge of losing large amounts of pilots. I think they were expecting to lose some captains but the unexpected thing is the senior FO's leaving. The problem with giving all of your 5000+ hour FO's ATPs is that they may stand a chance of getting hired some places without pic time. My guess is that by the end of this year the ASA side alone will be losing over 30 a month. On top of that the rest rule requirements will destroy xjet/asa. They simply will not be able to run the place with the staff they have now in the summer of 2014 not withstanding massive shrinkage.
Anyways carry on...
same deal on the ERJ side, it's a 50/50 split on FOs and CAs leaving.........I can't wait to fly my last trip next week .
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
same deal on the ERJ side, it's a 50/50 split on FOs and CAs leaving.........I can't wait to fly my last trip next week .
2013 YTD resignations:

ERJ CA:15
ERJ FO: 3

CRJ CA: 13
CRJ FO: 5

* As of 02/18 on Xjet.com. 1/5 split isnt close to a 50/50. A bigger problem with that number for ASA and their chronically reactive manpower staffing is the 13 captains that have left in the first 6 weeks of 2013 is only 5 people less than the entire left seat attrition of 2012 at ASA
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:51 AM
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Guess I was wrong . I'll be the 4th F/O , with many more to come on both seats, from both sides of the airline. This summer is going to be a NIGHTMARE for Expressjet
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Guess I was wrong . I'll make it 4 FOs
just be glad you wont be here for another summer! Good luck!
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
I can't wait to fly my last trip next week .
Congratulations! If you don't mind me asking, where are you headed?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:05 AM
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On the CRJ side we do have 40ish pilots(20 Capts/20 FOs) coming back from Air Mekong next month, so maybe that's why they've been a lil slow to react.
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