Red97Vette

Yay! Lets shut down hiring in time for summer when we are understaffed during the winter...things CANT go wrong with this plan!

Bozo

You need the 1500tt but you do not need the written done.

spudskier

I have a hard time believing that there will be no classes for the next two months. You're usually spot on with your info but I'm having a hard time with this one, especially since I've moved almost a class-worth of people on the master seniority list in the last two months.

"Irons in the fire" I'll believe. Hopefully that's always the case. I know there's RFPs for AE, UAX, and USAir out there. I do doubt that we're competitive enough to get any of them. GoJets, Compass, Mesa, etc... are so much cheaper and as we all know, money rules... not results.

Hiring should pick up soon with people leaving left and right. The attrition might account for the 10ish planes leaving the DCI system, but it's gonna do nothing for the new rest rules next winter. I would guess no less than 50% of the L-ASA group has resumes out somewhere if not everywhere. This summer is going to be a gigantic Cluster F*@$

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afterburn81

Just curious, all this attrition. Where is everyone going and why? Seems like the only places hiring are JB and USAir. So you go back to an RJ and be an FO again for many years getting paid less than XJT. And most have to commute. I can't see the appeal.

I know United may hire one day. Not currently and they have a bunch of furloughs to recall. Same with American. And forget about Delta. I have talked to a couple of people that went to JB blue no more than the usual movement. Where else is really worth jumping ship to only sit at the bottom of another huge shaky seniority list?

Is this just speculation of movement? My number really hasn't changed much at all. Anyone in ATL on the 7/9 can see there are more pairings. But the block hours are actually less than last year. Notice they have no 4 days during the week. All 4 days touch weekends. And only about a hundred 3 days or so. It's all day lines and 2 days. I too was wondering why the number of pairings went up so much. And the ATL 200 is dwindling too. Yes there are some rest rule changes coming up. That proposes a challenge. That is the only staffing challenge I see.

With that being said, I'm sure there is less of a staffing problem than everyone thinks. They got it figured out. So long as we all sit here and let them do what they want, they will always have it figured out.

Thank you sir may I have another.

spudskier

United is hiring all those that were in the pool before the last furlough. Several captain friends of mine have gotten class dates. USAir is hiring, JetBlue has been hiring, Virgin is hiring, Allegiant has been hiring, FedEx is hiring a trickle, Alaska just opened another window, some are jumping to corporate or fractional, we've fired a few for some reason or another, AA is rumored to hire this summer and Delta next winter. Atlas, Emirates, and Fly Dubai have also hired from our group.

There's movement, and lots more coming. That being said, I don't kid myself for a second that they'll appropriately staff us or look ahead to the attrition or rest rules next winter. Hold onto your butt, it's gonna be rough

Trip7

UAL just announced off the street hiring starting in March yesterday. Hiring 230 pilots through May. I know we have a good amount of Captains and FOs who interned at UAL as well.

As far a where everyone has been going recently, JetBlue and Spirit have taken quite a few. All the Captains that where ex TWA AMR furloughs have left to go back to AMR. UAL has taken many of our Captains who were hired years ago but had their class cancelled or put in a pool. Lastly several Captains and FOs have left to go to Airways, which may turn out to be a brilliant move. Airways retires 50% of their current seniority list in 2020

Now we have news that UAL is hiring, many predict AMR to hire off the street starting this summer, and then Delta this fall for 2014 classes. The flood has begun!

As far as your "back to FO for many years getting paid less than XJT" quote, have you taken a look at the Airways MOU payrates? If your are hired today at Airways you will make $121 an hr on 3rd year pay as a lineholder A320 FO

Food for thought

pullforexit

Ask the guys at Comair and Pinnacle how that attitude worked out. You are a subcontractor. Your company is only allowed to fly it's aircraft because Delta/United have not been able to swing a deal with someone else yet to do it cheaper. Every regional pilot should be doing whatever it takes to get out and move on to a real airline as soon as possible.

I am half way through my first year at US Air. I am not flying an RJ and I am definitely making more money than I did at XJT. Plus, my career prospects are a whole lot brighter at US Air, than any regional. Don't get comfortable standing on a stepping stone in your career.

Bozo

As of 5 pm Tuesday, my info is correct.

somertime32

I just checked on flica and there are around 130 4 days that start on Mondays and Tuesdays.

atrdriver

I suppose if you define Mondays and Fridays as "touching a weekend" then it's impossible for any four-day trip to not touch a weekend.

But yea it looked like there were quite a few during-the-week four-days to me too.