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Old 02-06-2013, 06:23 AM
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Apparently they are still interviewing as of yesterday.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:52 AM
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Apparently they are still interviewing as of yesterday.
Probably because they want to keep the drowning pool full. I would assume that the people who have been treading water for months are getting sick of it and going someplace that is actually hiring and having classes.

Mgmt here has already said there is no hiring plans for this year. Maybe a CRJ class on the ASA side, but that too seems to keep getting pushed farther away. I personally hope that changes (for both sides!) but for now doesn't look like it
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:41 AM
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i do believe they are using the CAL approach to staffing. Just right for the slow periods and then offer 200% pay in the summer to get everything covered.
Plus the boat has sailed on getting new hires and upgrades online by the summer.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:14 AM
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So if Miami turns out they feel staffing will be enough as is?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:14 PM
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Just to make sure I am getting this straight, Expressjet is not hiring?? I would like to get the info from those of you in the frontline that have the scoop. I know they give credit for helo time but will they settle for a guy with only 60 hours multi?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:57 PM
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Possible, but unlikely. I THINK you have to have 100 hours multi engine fixed wing. They do take helo time, though.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Compass only has 440 pilots. If they get even a small amount of AE flying movement over there will be crazy.
I think you should apply. I will even pay your Airapps fee for the year!
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:04 PM
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The airline is right now critically understaffed. They have been running out of reserves and extending lineholders for the last two weeks. In February, the slowest month of the year. They have to run another class, because if they don't this place will shut down this summer. Our inept management has short term memory. I guess they don't remember the chaos of summer 2011 when everyone timed out and fatigued out.

I will say that I find is extremely funny that management wants 10 million dollars in concessions, yet they waste money extending lineholders at 150%. I think they need to cut the waste before they even think about asking for concessions. epic fail.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
The airline is right now critically understaffed. They have been running out of reserves and extending lineholders for the last two weeks. In February, the slowest month of the year. They have to run another class, because if they don't this place will shut down this summer. Our inept management has short term memory. I guess they don't remember the chaos of summer 2011 when everyone timed out and fatigued out.

I will say that I find is extremely funny that management wants 10 million dollars in concessions, yet they waste money extending lineholders at 150%. I think they need to cut the waste before they even think about asking for concessions. epic fail.
I'm with you, however I'm sure they looked at what it costs at paying 150% vs hiring a person. It's cheaper to offer overtime(150%) than it would be to hire someone. I'd be interested to see the numbers of how many people get extended and I'd be willing to bet it is still cheaper than paying health insurance, 401k, training costs, and salary for two people to get hired.

It's like this in almost every industry. It's cheaper to pay someone a few hundred bucks extra than it is to pay someone a years salary.

Where I take issue, as you pointed out, was their meltdown in 2011. When you're having people fatigue out and drop dead as a lack of planning I think that shows a lack of respect for employees and common sense. I think it also showed them just how far they could push, and how much they can get away with before we snap. Hopefully we can avoid another summer 2011, I know I won't let them push me as hard as they did.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:38 AM
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I'm with you, however I'm sure they looked at what it costs at paying 150% vs hiring a person. It's cheaper to offer overtime(150%) than it would be to hire someone. I'd be interested to see the numbers of how many people get extended and I'd be willing to bet it is still cheaper than paying health insurance, 401k, training costs, and salary for two people to get hired.

It's like this in almost every industry. It's cheaper to pay someone a few hundred bucks extra than it is to pay someone a years salary.
The flaw here is that anyone who's been here for a while knows that this company succeeds in spite of itself. The is no way they did any kind of analysis. The crew resources department lives hour to hour putting out fires. They have no long range planning whatsoever. Their only goal is to get a problem off their desk and onto someone else's. In fact, that's how everyone in the GO operates.

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Where I take issue, as you pointed out, was their meltdown in 2011. When you're having people fatigue out and drop dead as a lack of planning I think that shows a lack of respect for employees and common sense. I think it also showed them just how far they could push, and how much they can get away with before we snap. Hopefully we can avoid another summer 2011, I know I won't let them push me as hard as they did.
Clearly they forgot. Or more likely, they don't care. They probably figure everyone will moan and gripe on the message boards, but still show up to work. If people start to fatigue out, they'll just go back to the punitive fatigue policy. Then we'll get a memo blaming the pilots for fatigue calls, but saying It Doesn't Matter How We Got Here.
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