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#1981
The down side is senior pilot groups and better contract that anyone else out there and 80% of airplanes being 50 seaters.
The minute management comes after you guys for cuts, lit integration and such you will see the culture that makes SKW what it is die down and you will be just another regional but with a lot of 50 seaters. Look at Southwest, look at their culture and management hasn't touched compensation yet.
#1982
Oh well, the APC "experts" have spoken. Hear that Jerry? I guess you may as well shut down the company. You have no chance and no plan according to a Delta and an American Eagle pilot, lol. "You will be crushed". Lol.
#1983
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You've been doing this long enough. So be honest. You're telling me you honestly believe SkyWest Inc would make it in their own? No more gravy train FFD contracts. SkyWest Inc now must pay for their own fuel, mx, training, etc. All of it. They'll be responsible for advertising, insurance, catering, cleaning crews, gates, slots, etc.
Tell me how well that's gone for Independence Air, ExpressJet branded, Virgin America, SkyBus, and Republic. How will SkyWest Inc be different? RAH had tons of cash & great financing before they bought F9. Now look at them. They're desperately trying to sell F9. BB is running with his tail between his legs. SkyWest has neither the brand nor the client base to go a it on their own. Codeshare likely won't change that. RAH currently has FFD contracts supporting their Frontier operation, and it's still losing money. Please tell me how SkyWest Inc will be different.
#1984
Each failure mentioned above had their own unique reason why things didn't work out. It is possible for a regional airline in this country to "go it alone" and do well. If anyone could do it I think Skywest could. If I knew how I wouldn't be flying airplanes. But I think if Skywest pulls that trigger they will do well. Anyhow, airplanes will keep getting bigger at regionals. I don't like that anymore than you do but I have more confidence in ALPA with management making that happen then stopping and reversing this trend.
#1985
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I'll tell you this. SkyWest Inc. isn't just going to lay down and die because some mainline ALPA groups told them to. Also, I think we all know that SkyWest didn't really order those MRJs as RJ-700/900 replacements. SkyWest of the future will either work with their "mainline partner" CEOs to find a loophole in the PWAs allowing code share, or they will just go it alone with MRJs and possible Airbuses.
Either way, I hope I'm not here to take part in it.
Either way, I hope I'm not here to take part in it.
#1986
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Each failure mentioned above had their own unique reason why things didn't work out. It is possible for a regional airline in this country to "go it alone" and do well. If anyone could do it I think Skywest could. If I knew how I wouldn't be flying airplanes. But I think if Skywest pulls that trigger they will do well. Anyhow, airplanes will keep getting bigger at regionals. I don't like that anymore than you do but I have more confidence in ALPA with management making that happen then stopping and reversing this trend.
And the size of allowable RJs hasn't changed in years.
#1987
It is more like a theory. If it could be done Skywest could do well. That is all I am saying. I know the size of aircraft hasn't changed in years but I see it going up. Don't ask me how. I am just bitter and pessimistic about the way things have been going with the airlines.
#1988
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It is more like a theory. If it could be done Skywest could do well. That is all I am saying. I know the size of aircraft hasn't changed in years but I see it going up. Don't ask me how. I am just bitter and pessimistic about the way things have been going with the airlines.
#1990
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Really? Give me an example. Each one of those failures were due to one thing, losing money. They couldn't make money. VA still can't. And they're flying a larger airplane with a lower CASM. So tell me how SkyWest will be different.
And the size of allowable RJs hasn't changed in years.
And the size of allowable RJs hasn't changed in years.
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