BassFishr

It has everything to do with PBS.

resetjet

I am impartial when it comes to PBS. The reason for the delay is the company's ineptitude and a terrible contract that doesn't allow us to get our final schedules until ridiculously late in the month. I'd love to hear your explanation of why you think it's PBS. The same thing consistently happened under line bidding.

BassFishr

Ok you called my bluff...kind of.
Under line bidding the solutions were much easier. These solutions were run right away on the 15th and the schedules were posted. This delay is a computer "glitch" that has to due with training schedules. This would not have been a big issue under the simpler line bidding, plus it would have been discovered right away instead of days later after the company and union debate over the proper solution. It's definitely a company issue that get emphasized by PBS.
My apologies, I'm still fired up that this keeps happening.

PBSG

First off - our line bidding (Maybe not the one you had) still comes out early. People get pretty upset when the bid packets don't come out ontime. So maybe it was your old set up but ours comes out early.

Second - that needs to change. Whatever bidding system we end up with we need contractual language saying we need it early in the month. Why aren't you guys throwing a fit when you don't even see your next months schedule a week before the month starts?

todd1200

It does have everything to do with PBS - the company email states, "We encountered a problem with the PBS Award Engine."

afterburn81

This scheduling crap is so annoying. The union needs to seriously put their foot down. Yes, I have complained to the appropriate people. Only the union has the ability to hold people accountable. I understand people make mistakes. But why is it every time they have a scheduling issue it's on the day the schedules are supposed to come out that they realize it.

When the frontline employees have an issue and the operation is delayed, or affected they are expected to stay until the job is complete. I expect this from all departments. Not just flight operations and maintenance. Upon discovery of the issue, the company and the union that gets paid to do their jobs should have committed to the issue instead of heading home.

Must have been nice.

80ktsClamp

Considering your failed attempts to educate the DL pilots on what's in their contract, I'd say you have some more walking to do.

AtlCSIP

It is not a PBS problem. A problem with the PBS Award Engine is like having a problem with your computer while writing a paper in college. Your computer may have an issue the precludes you from being able to type your paper (final draft), although the paper itself is intact (rough draft with edits).

todd1200

The problem centers around ETB virtual credits right? Virtual credits are not necessary under line bidding. The problem has everything to do PBS.

Redundant Guy

You still have your line completion and integration to work through. Those are crap shoots and if a pairing fits, there you go. NO say over it. ASA guys like to complain about the award time but I remember under line bidding guys getting ****ed because they never knew what would happen with integration. PBS is not the evil you've been led to believe. What ASA pilots have is not truly PBS in the sense that CAL pilots have. We have something akin to weekly line bidding. If its available and it doesn't conflict with your other choices, it is your's. Your team is preaching timelyness instead of quality. The company is salivating at the chance to get what your team has proposed. It is a fooking gift!

One way to knock a few days of this process is for First Officers to give up the ability to not fly with certain Captains. I'm not terribly excited about the idea but it is likely worth three days to the whole process.