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11-14-2012, 06:13 PM

#1681

SlowATRDriver

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Position: 737 FO

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Originally Posted by FDX8891

I'm just looking forward to getting furloughed so I can have a QOL increase and pay raise...

2 years and still no contract...I have no faith in either MEC...

Time to merge Inc. into one big unhappy family, get rid of ALPA and start an in-house union.

How long have you been with the company? Didn't you just get off first year probation?

Remember this?

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Who had the gun to your head when you got into this industry?

11-14-2012, 06:34 PM

#1682

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by FDX8891

Nothing sounds like a group of winners more than an in-house regional union. Best of luck if you go that way... you're going to need it! (ASA and XJT ALPA take in more money from ALPA than they contribute, fyi)

11-14-2012, 06:40 PM

#1683

squaretail

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

bs.

I agree that it's a stupid move though.

11-14-2012, 06:41 PM

#1684

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by squaretail

bs.

I agree that it's a stupid move though.

It's pretty well known and easy to research. I don't know of any regionals that produce more money than they take in- particularly when in negotiations.

11-14-2012, 06:47 PM

#1685

FlyFishPilot

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

It's pretty well known and easy to research. I don't know of any regionals that produce more money than they take in- particularly when in negotiations.

The company is paying for the negotiations.

11-14-2012, 06:52 PM

#1686

JetBlast77

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

It's pretty well known and easy to research. I don't know of any regionals that produce more money than they take in- particularly when in negotiations.

I'm trying to think besides UAL and DAL, which ALPA airlines are bigger than us? We have over 4,500 pilots.

11-14-2012, 06:57 PM

#1687

unit monster

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Originally Posted by squaretail

bs.

I agree that it's a stupid move though.

I'm fairly certain that 80knots is right. It was either said outright or highly alluded to at an ALPA lunch once.

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Originally Posted by FlyFishPilot

The company is paying for the negotiations.

please elaborate.

11-14-2012, 07:00 PM

#1688

unit monster

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Originally Posted by JetBlast77

I'm trying to think besides UAL and DAL, which ALPA airlines are bigger than us? We have almost right at 4,000 pilots.

4,000 Pilots making $20-$120 an hour - what's DAL at? $60-$200+

It's all about payroll, not bodies. But I'm sure you know that.

11-14-2012, 07:01 PM

#1689

JetBlast77

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Originally Posted by unit monster

4,000 Pilots making $20-$120 an hour - what's DAL at? $60-$200+

It's all about payroll, not bodies. But I'm sure you know that.

Makes sense. Thanks for explaining it and not being sarcastic.

11-14-2012, 07:03 PM

#1690

FlyFishPilot

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Originally Posted by unit monster

please elaborate.

I was speaking with an ASA ALPA rep and I mentioned the cost of negotiations. He told me the company had picked up the tab to expedite the process. No dog in this fight, so disregard if I'm wrong.