Spoilers

No. They just didn't do it....

DontRelaxScope

Supposed to be the same timeline every month.

JoeMerchant

Actually, the majority of guys I fly with don't want to have anything to do with the XJT pilot group....and that number continues to grow while they continue to cry....

DontRelaxScope

Not sure why it didn't work for you, it just worked for me... As useless as it is.

afterburn81

So what kind of compromise is your side making? What compromise are YOU making? Are they equal compromises on both sides?

Spoilers

The system works, but they didn't do a prelim for December schedules.

Spoilers

Disregard... looks like they are working on it.

AtlCSIP

It is true that compromise is going to be the only way to get this done. I don't think the statement that 'one side is willing, one side is not' is completely accurate. It would appear that the L-ASA probably gives in too quickly, historically speaking, and the L-XJT group probably holds out longer, which is how they got their contract, but may not be nearly as beneficial in this case. Lots of folks on both sides want to get this behind us. Compromise is somewhere in the middle. Let's find that middle and move on, because this divided group will not improve until we do. The 'stay separate or let it burn' mentality is the wrong approach.

unit monster

Why does it seem your sense of loyalty to the ASA group is so low? Reading your posts and they always seem to be in defense of the XJT group. I'm not defending Tony, this is just an observation that your tone is noticeably anti ASA.

note: I'm all about ignoring the divisive folks among both our groups, and I'm not attempting to divide further.

RamenNoodles

If that's the case, you should all have a Come-to-Jesus meeting and remove your collective heads from the brown starfish between your cheeks. No combined group = no new CBA ever again= management wins and we lose big time. It also means no new flying opportunities because our customers will be terrified of our toxic labor relations. Don't make it worse than it already is.

Yes its tough to compromise but you also have to spend some time in the XJT pilots' shoes. Here is a news flash: it wasn't their CBA that was making XJT lose money. Their CASM prior to the merge was significantly less than ASA's, despite the better contract. Go read the 10K reports for both companies if you don't believe me.

Have some sympathy for these guys and try to understand where they are coming from rather than turn your nose up and decide we are better off apart. The exact opposite is true.