What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
11-10-2012, 08:47 AM
#1561
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Position: Gear Slinger
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To be fair Skedplus+ has generally been ok. It's certainly more user friendly than our old system. Rainmaker on the other hand has been a disaster.On average I have to make between 10-15 pay claims per month because I'm constantly not being paid properly. Never have I been overpaid by Rainmaker, it's always massive underpayment. For this month I should be looking at 93 hours of pay, at the moment Rainmaker is showing my credit as 83.5. Our contract states that pay claims must be answered within 14 days. I've had pay claims in for over double that which haven't been answered. We are constantly paid wrong because Rainmaker doesn't work properly with our contract and work rules. It's been awful
11-10-2012, 10:46 AM
#1562
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 159
rainmaker has been great over on the LASA side. It may have to do with contracts or something. If it is wrong (rarely it is)...it is usually corrected within a day or so...
11-10-2012, 10:55 AM
#1563
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Posts: 1,134
If you don't consider the first 4 to be "worth going to", maybe you should adjust your expectations. Or to put it another way, you need to "get on board".
Out of curiosity, what problems is the ERJ side having with Rainmaker and SkedPlus+? I remember a couple of hiccups when we adopted them (mainly Rainmaker was over-paying people), but nothing major. Just wondering why management is having such a hard time implementing it for your side--or did you have a better system in place prior to the merger? Speaking for myself, those programs have enhanced the ease of scheduling and auditing pay.
On leg by leg/block or better. Not getting paid the difference between the under block and the scheduled.
Not getting paid properly for an over block vs the scheduled.
Not getting paid properly on things like min report credit or DPM's properly.
Not getting paid for customs pay, nor international arrival duty off perdiem properly.
A pilot that was on airport standby that is supposed to get paid 4 hours for the 4 hour airport standby getting called out for a 2 hour turn, and only either the 2 hours showing as pay credit. OR the min day of 3.75 as opposed to the contractual 4 hours of pay.
Not getting paid properly when a trip was dropped for training.
Not getting paid properly for deadheads.
Now combine this with a pay claim submission NOT being answered/complied with/responded too in the contractual amount of time it's supposed to be.
Does it happen ALL day EVERY day to EVERY pilot? No, but if you were to ask ANY pilot if they've ANY of those example happen to them on a repetitive basis, you'd be hard pressed to find one that would tell you "NO".
"Give us a year........." What the heck is ATL's (SGU's) definition of a year?
"we not always get it right but that doesn't mean we aren't trying". What is ATL's (SGU's) definition of trying?
11-10-2012, 12:50 PM
#1564
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 71
Rainmaker is a complete disaster for the ERJ side.
I recently had to pay claim $6,000 over a three month period!
Under CCS (the old system), I may have pay claimed $1,000 over a three year period.
Why should the company fix it? I'm sure that many pilots don't pay claim properly, therefore the company keeps the loot. American Greed lives on.
I recently had to pay claim $6,000 over a three month period!
Under CCS (the old system), I may have pay claimed $1,000 over a three year period.
Why should the company fix it? I'm sure that many pilots don't pay claim properly, therefore the company keeps the loot. American Greed lives on.
11-10-2012, 01:27 PM
#1565
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Posts: 285
Just FYI those systems and the PBS are completely different people. The PBS is through flica and they've been doing this a long time. Not like the Skywest IT dept.
11-10-2012, 02:13 PM
#1566
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And as others have mentioned, the old bastardized/left over MS-DOS turned into a GUI style interface that was piggy backed off of CAL had way fewer errors. It has a learning curve to understand it's archaic/antiquated presentation. But the fact remains, it paid way more accurately than Painmaker.
11-10-2012, 03:11 PM
#1567
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Thanks for your opinion, which nobody asked for. Pretty shallow of you to defend your judging my entire character by my (admittedly) trolling, childish web posts. Sorry, I guess I missed the memo that the internet message boards were for something other than rumors and entertainment. If you truly "know all about me", then you know how to find me. When you do, I'll gladly buy you lunch and we can have a "real" conversation. And that offer is open to all of you.
I really, truly hope you don't get furloughed again. Or anyone on the L-XJT side for that matter. But if it happens, you have no one to blame but your MEC for their pigheadedness, not us, and not management.
I really, truly hope you don't get furloughed again. Or anyone on the L-XJT side for that matter. But if it happens, you have no one to blame but your MEC for their pigheadedness, not us, and not management.
11-10-2012, 06:31 PM
#1568
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 503
Actually, we did the first MOU to help your pilots out and we asked for nothing in return. That was not the case when we asked for the same. The only way your MEC would sign off is with something in return. We ended up not needing the MOU.
11-10-2012, 08:08 PM
#1569
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ERJ right
Posts: 265
What did they ask for in return? If I recall the MOU was agreed upon and signed.
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