3stripes

Those that wished anything bad upon the ASA pilot group when you were going through your hardships are no better than trolls like CaptainTony and JoeMerchant. I have spent many an overnight in the bar with our ASA colleagues and I have always found them to be personable, friendly and extremely professional. It is not fair for either pilot group to be trampled all over by those at the very top of the seniority list so those at the top win while everyone else loses. I harbour no hard feelings to the L-ASA guys and I really hope we can get this resolved. I am willing to listen when it comes to PBS, I just hope those with their own agendas, whether they be the L-XJT MEC or senior lifers at ASA, resolve to overcome their differences and come up with a contract that is better for all of us.

Please don't take our idiots on these boards as examples of your average L-XJT pilot, likewise, we won't acknowledge fools like Tony and Merchant as being typical of your pilot group. We can form a very strong, worthwhile company if we just work together and listen to each other.

3stripes

I would happily sit down with you and discuss this properly, face to face. I doubt in person your are as obtuse and immature as you are on here and I would hope we can have a real conversation about these matters.

Just don't come on here or on the Pipe expecting a friendly reaction when you conduct yourself in such an explosive way towards the L-XJT pilot group. We are not happy with our MEC, they are being needlessly cagey on certain matters and there have been events in recent weeks that have even drawn some to talk about starting an independent union. We don't want this to be a painful union, we don't want to be the next USAir. Maybe you could be less inflammatory in your future posts? I'm sure in person you are a good guy, but on here you come across as really being a guns blazing screw L-XJT type. We've merged, now let's merge the best of our contracts and move forwards as one. However, if the offer on the table isn't as good as our current contract and work rules, don't expect us to give our current concessionary contract up for something worse.

Captain Tony

I hope you realize that your continuing to call those of us who disagree with you "trolls" and "lifers" is just as insulting as me calling you an entitled rookie?

And it's not just trolling, but a fact, that your MEC told our MEC they were in no hurry to settle, because they expected mass furloughs from the ASA side, and they intended to throw us under the bus to save their own. But don't worry, our reps are bigger than that. We'll save you guys again.

Captain Tony

I'm not going to pretend I'm happy about this merger. Your side is the one that came in with guns blazing how ****ed off you all were at SKW INC and how they were going to pay or you were going to shut the company down when. Do you not remember all that rhetoric on The Pipe? Were you even there then?

We have a lot of issues with our management and they way they run things, but generally, we're happy here. You guys came in and overturned our apple cart. So why wouldn't we take the opportunity to flame back a little bit on The Pipe? My comments were only reacting to their comments.

3stripes

I'm not calling those who disagree with me trolls or lifers, I am calling you that because the way you conduct yourself can be described as little other than trolling. I have no problem with lifers, just don't be one at the expensive of those below you on the list. Likewise, I'm appalled that one of our MEC is telling junior furloughs that being furloughed isn't so bad. It show a reckless and out of touch attitude which has no place in a senior union position.

I can't comment on what our MEC said or your MEC said because I wasn't there. At this point it's all hearsay. If indeed our MEC said that, then shame on him.

Captain Tony

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3stripes

There is an attitude amongst a small minority at L-XJT that I dislike immensely. It generally comes from some of our more senior guys who hate to admit that things weren't working out here anymore and we were close to the edge. In many respects they were similar to the way I view you Captain Tony, and I'm sorry if you feel that to be an unfair comment. They were very resistant to change, they are generally lifers at XJT for one reason or another and when they got hired they were told they were going to be flying for Continental Mainline within just a few years directly by Gordon Bethune himself. There is an attitude among a few here that they are major airline pilots flying for a major that somehow has become a regional. It's misguided.

The fact is that we are both regionals, we are both totally at the whim of our mainline partners and neither ASA or XJT is really in control of our own destinies.

I apologise to you for the attitude of some of our 'holier than thou' pilots. I think that the vast majority of our pilot group doesn't think of themselves in this way. However, we have a good contract, even in it's current concessionary state. We don't want to forfeit that for something which will be worse.

PBS could POSSIBLY work, unfortunately there are many at XJT who have just heard that PBS is bad from other pilots and use the CAL switchover as an example. If used properly PBS is a very effective tool.

I'm sure neither side really wanted this merger to happen, but financially we're stronger because of it. It's happened now anyway, so let's just accept it and move forward together.

As an aside, the fact that one of our MECs is telling junior pilots that furloughs can be better than working is appalling, and is not something someone in such office should be saying.

atrdriver

Out of curiosity, what problems is the ERJ side having with Rainmaker and SkedPlus+? I remember a couple of hiccups when we adopted them (mainly Rainmaker was over-paying people), but nothing major. Just wondering why management is having such a hard time implementing it for your side--or did you have a better system in place prior to the merger? Speaking for myself, those programs have enhanced the ease of scheduling and auditing pay.

3stripes

To be fair Skedplus+ has generally been ok. It's certainly more user friendly than our old system. Rainmaker on the other hand has been a disaster.On average I have to make between 10-15 pay claims per month because I'm constantly not being paid properly. Never have I been overpaid by Rainmaker, it's always massive underpayment. For this month I should be looking at 93 hours of pay, at the moment Rainmaker is showing my credit as 83.5. Our contract states that pay claims must be answered within 14 days. I've had pay claims in for over double that which haven't been answered. We are constantly paid wrong because Rainmaker doesn't work properly with our contract and work rules. It's been awful

atrdriver

That's totally inexcusable. Wonder what the problem is on IT/payroll's end. It works fine for us so you wouldn't think it'd be very hard for them to just plug in your CBA's parameters.

Guess they really cocked that one up.